[quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
[b]The author could potentially get in a lot of trouble with something like that.
[/b][/quote]
Why that -- if it is just fanwork (I see that including CF's music would be a problem)?
I didn't suggest that such a CD should be sold but given to the fans for cost of the copy + postage/packaging if necessary.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
1) The author wants it to be a space combat simulator more than words can express, but he knows he's SOL.
2) The author likes the idea of an interactive story with graphics and music, but the author only has just so much free time. So this probably isn't going to happen - at least, not at the author's hands – unless someone wants to pay him for it.
3) So what FO fans get is what the author is doing now.
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
The story is what matters. I let my imagination do the rest.
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[b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[quote]Originally posted by Randy:
[b]1) The author wants it to be a space combat simulator more than words can express, but he knows he's SOL.[/b][/quote]
"SOL"?
[quote][b]
2) The author likes the idea of an interactive story with graphics and music, but the author only has just so much free time. So this probably isn't going to happen - at least, not at the author's hands – unless someone wants to pay him for it. [/b][/quote]
That for sure would be the best solution... But: is there any possibility for it in a small approach like this? With all the copyright problems... I doubt it.
[quote][b]
3) So what FO fans get is what the author is doing now. [/b][/quote]
... unless fans are doing it themselves??
Do not misunderstand me: I am absolutely *HAPPY* with (reading) the story! After all a good story stands on its own. It was (and is) just my feeling that I and many fans would like to use an application that combines story, music, etc. rather than starting those mp3 files and looking at the fan pictures before I dive into the story.
@the author: What I am suggesting is a fan project. Call it a "mod" of the story. I would *hate* the idea of the story being told any way the author would not want it to be told. Of course, the idea would make no sense, if not enough people were interested in such a project. I have already asked a workmate --the "Macromedia Director" specialist in our company-- if he would be interested in doing such a project. He is.
Hm.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
Its not a bad idea to have an interactive, macromedia director style story book. It could get too complicated though, what do you put in, copyright issues. Nevertheless it is interesting....
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'The future is all around us' G'kar
'I have no surviving enemies! None what so ever!' Galen
Visit my B5 site at: [url="http://www.nialb5.com"]B5 site[/url].
I check it out about 3-4 times a week... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
if the author stops, this fan will be very sad. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/frown.gif[/img]
But I REALLY like the story! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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[b]whitestar90: [/b]"it would give the computer a heartattack just looking at it" -
[b]Sanfam: [/b]"And Drazi didn't like it one bit.-
[b]Mr.Bungle: [/b][i]"So that's where the forum went..."[/i]-
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[b][i]ahhh, the good old days of HTML.[/i][/b]
[lawyer-politician-snake oil salesman hat on]Once the author has finished one path through a story that is similiar to what ITF would have been like, if someone else then takes those words and incorporates them into a fan project, it is out of the author's hands. [lawyer-politician-snake oil salesman hat off]
It's "interesting" how S.O.L. can also mean Sierra On Line.
[This message has been edited by Randy (edited 08-20-2001).]
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
S = Same, O = Old, L = Stupid Ideas About How to Make Money From Games That Don't Actually Work and Instead Ruin Your Company.
I like my interpretation better. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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[b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Enjoying the new updates. My thanks to the author for continuing them.
That said, time for another edition of Bekenn's NitPicks:
The game map seems to be essentially the same one that AoG published in the 2nd Edition Rules Compendium (p. 185 -- and yes, I am obsessed. Stop looking at me like that!), which shows a jump route between Eridani and Sh'Lassan, and marks the Mentab-Sh'Lassan jump route as restricted; the trip should only be two jumps long.
Hmm... wait a minute.... I just checked my... erm... "vivid memory" of the image of the game map that was posted months and months ago. The portion shown is quite similar to the AoG map, but definitely not the same. For one, the AoG map shows a major jump route between Epsilon and Altair... hmm....
Then, the AoG map is also for 2257, but surely jump routes wouldn't change [i]that[/i] much in seven years, would they?
We started with the AOG map (with slight modifications to bring it in line with our current references at the time), and then expanded it out from there in all directions. The ITF map covers much, much more territory than the AOG map. For the expansion we used episode references, our current knowledge of our galactic neighborhood, including use of a device that would tell us the probable makeup of a star system based on current knowledge of a particular star type, and poetic license.
[quote]Originally posted by Bekenn:
[b]The game map seems to be essentially the same one that AoG published in the 2nd Edition Rules Compendium[/b][/quote]
There's a game map available? Where? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
[quote]Originally posted by Randy:
[b]As I said, the AOG map covers only a small, central portion of the much larger area we covered for our game.
You can find information about AOG [url="http://www.agentsofgaming.com"]HERE[/url].
[/b][/quote]
I don't think that was what he was askin' fer Randy... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
-Rick
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
[quote]Originally posted by Rick:
[b] I don't think that was what he was askin' fer Randy... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img][/b][/quote]
Correct. I was asking if that means the ItF map was legitimately available to the public anywhere [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by JohnD (edited 08-31-2001).]
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
Nope. Sierra IP.
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[b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Somen anonymous fan did provide a sneak peak, though [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
Yeah. Now we just need a few more anonymous fans to provide sneak peeks at the rest of the map... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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[b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Gee, I wish I could have some sort of cameo in that story. Pity I have absolutly, posotivly no idea who the writer is. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
David Gian-Cursio [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by David of Mac (edited 09-05-2001).]
RubberEagleWhat's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
hm.. i wonder what the author would say if a mod team wanted to use his storyline (IMHO that mod would have to use the best available program for that purpose (not necessarily the best looking, but best suited engine))...
hey.. there's something familiar...
[quote]from Officer's Journal [b]
Jack Nichols of Universal Terraform [/b][/quote]
*hehe*
[This message has been edited by RubberEagle (edited 09-05-2001).]
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
Yeah I picked that Jack one up. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
I wonder if there is room for someone who writes lots and lots in their journal to be mentioned. Or maybe a race of creatures who live in nutrient tanks. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
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[b]The author could potentially get in a lot of trouble with something like that.
[/b][/quote]
Why that -- if it is just fanwork (I see that including CF's music would be a problem)?
I didn't suggest that such a CD should be sold but given to the fans for cost of the copy + postage/packaging if necessary.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
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'The future is all around us' G'kar
'I have no surviving enemies! None what so ever!' Galen
Visit my B5 site at: [url="http://www.nialb5.com"]B5 site[/url].
2) The author likes the idea of an interactive story with graphics and music, but the author only has just so much free time. So this probably isn't going to happen - at least, not at the author's hands – unless someone wants to pay him for it.
3) So what FO fans get is what the author is doing now.
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[b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[b]1) The author wants it to be a space combat simulator more than words can express, but he knows he's SOL.[/b][/quote]
"SOL"?
[quote][b]
2) The author likes the idea of an interactive story with graphics and music, but the author only has just so much free time. So this probably isn't going to happen - at least, not at the author's hands – unless someone wants to pay him for it. [/b][/quote]
That for sure would be the best solution... But: is there any possibility for it in a small approach like this? With all the copyright problems... I doubt it.
[quote][b]
3) So what FO fans get is what the author is doing now. [/b][/quote]
... unless fans are doing it themselves??
Do not misunderstand me: I am absolutely *HAPPY* with (reading) the story! After all a good story stands on its own. It was (and is) just my feeling that I and many fans would like to use an application that combines story, music, etc. rather than starting those mp3 files and looking at the fan pictures before I dive into the story.
@the author: What I am suggesting is a fan project. Call it a "mod" of the story. I would *hate* the idea of the story being told any way the author would not want it to be told. Of course, the idea would make no sense, if not enough people were interested in such a project. I have already asked a workmate --the "Macromedia Director" specialist in our company-- if he would be interested in doing such a project. He is.
Hm.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
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'The future is all around us' G'kar
'I have no surviving enemies! None what so ever!' Galen
Visit my B5 site at: [url="http://www.nialb5.com"]B5 site[/url].
if the author stops, this fan will be very sad. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/frown.gif[/img]
But I REALLY like the story! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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[b]whitestar90: [/b]"it would give the computer a heartattack just looking at it" -
[b]Sanfam: [/b]"And Drazi didn't like it one bit.-
[b]Mr.Bungle: [/b][i]"So that's where the forum went..."[/i]-
---
[b][i]ahhh, the good old days of HTML.[/i][/b]
[b]S[/b]hit-[b]O[/b]ut of-[b]L[/b]uck
It's "interesting" how S.O.L. can also mean Sierra On Line.
[This message has been edited by Randy (edited 08-20-2001).]
Same Ol' Logic...
[img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
I like my interpretation better. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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[b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
That said, time for another edition of Bekenn's NitPicks:
The game map seems to be essentially the same one that AoG published in the 2nd Edition Rules Compendium (p. 185 -- and yes, I am obsessed. Stop looking at me like that!), which shows a jump route between Eridani and Sh'Lassan, and marks the Mentab-Sh'Lassan jump route as restricted; the trip should only be two jumps long.
Hmm... wait a minute.... I just checked my... erm... "vivid memory" of the image of the game map that was posted months and months ago. The portion shown is quite similar to the AoG map, but definitely not the same. For one, the AoG map shows a major jump route between Epsilon and Altair... hmm....
Then, the AoG map is also for 2257, but surely jump routes wouldn't change [i]that[/i] much in seven years, would they?
Then again, maybe I'm just too darned obssessed.
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We are here to place President Grenewetzki under arrest!
[b]The game map seems to be essentially the same one that AoG published in the 2nd Edition Rules Compendium[/b][/quote]
There's a game map available? Where? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
You can find information about AOG [url="http://www.agentsofgaming.com"]HERE[/url].
[This message has been edited by Randy (edited 08-31-2001).]
[b]As I said, the AOG map covers only a small, central portion of the much larger area we covered for our game.
You can find information about AOG [url="http://www.agentsofgaming.com"]HERE[/url].
[/b][/quote]
I don't think that was what he was askin' fer Randy... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
-Rick
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
[b] I don't think that was what he was askin' fer Randy... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img][/b][/quote]
Correct. I was asking if that means the ItF map was legitimately available to the public anywhere [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by JohnD (edited 08-31-2001).]
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[b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Right - it's not legitimately available to the public anywhere. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img]
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[b]Required reading: [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
David Gian-Cursio [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by David of Mac (edited 09-05-2001).]
hey.. there's something familiar...
[quote]from Officer's Journal [b]
Jack Nichols of Universal Terraform [/b][/quote]
*hehe*
[This message has been edited by RubberEagle (edited 09-05-2001).]
Saw a reference to Jeff Reitman too...
I wonder if there is room for someone who writes lots and lots in their journal to be mentioned. Or maybe a race of creatures who live in nutrient tanks. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras