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Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
For those of you that don't know why we seem to have all these internet problems today, it's due to a virus hitting servers overnight.
[url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42288-2003Jan25.html"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42288-2003Jan25.html[/url]

"Millions of Internet users in South Korea were stranded when computers at Korea Telecom Freetel and SK Telecom failed. Service was restored but remained slow, officials said. In Japan, NHK television reported heavy data traffic swamped some of the country's Internet connections, and Finnish phone operator TeliaSonera reported some problems."

"At the height of the attack, another company reported that computers were flooded with more than 125 megabytes of data every second."
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  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    You can find that same article here:

    [url="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&ncid=514&e=2&u=/ap/internet_attack"]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&ncid=514&e=2&u=/ap/internet_attack[/url]
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    would this be why all of Rasco's sites are not working?
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    Who is Rasco?

    RadiusCo on the otherhand is who Firstones uses.

    *smacks Croxis*

    This is what Striker/Chase/TV told me:
    "TV at Work: Howdy....

    We use Linux. We're not affected, but our data center was hit hard. They're trying to get a grip on it as we speak."
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    whoops, I spelled it wrong.

    *slaps RC back
  • Whoever did this is no better (or smarter) than a vandal who would tear down stop signs or 'tag' things.

    Get a life and a girl(boy)friend!
  • StrikerStriker Provided with distinction
    I'm not having fun....


    I've been troubleshooting this since 11:45 pm CST. I haven't slept since Thursday night.

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    Chase
    Web Hosting Provider for FirstOnes.com
    http://www.radiusco.com/
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Good. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    Apparently at one point 5 of the root DNS servers were down. Currently pretty much all of UUNet is dead in the water.

    [url="http://www.internethealthreport.com"]www.internethealthreport.com[/url]
    [url="http://www.internettrafficreport.com"]www.internettrafficreport.com[/url]

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    [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Never eat anything bigger than your own head.[/url]
    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    That explains why 3 of my 5 DNS servers were responding with no data entry for 90% of the sites. My system has been running on cached DNS data from yesterday mostly.

    2 of my DNS servers aren't even responding though - network must be dead where they are...which I can believe since they are on the same network as my website which is also down.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    asia seems to be hit the worst. RC, how do I set up DNS stuff on my system?
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    TCP/IP controls > Advanced > Add as many DNS servers as you feel like [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    To check them, IF you have Win2k or XP or NT:
    Run CMD
    NSLOOKUP

    NSLookup Commands:
    [i]Server {dns-server you want to test}
    ip[/i]

    IP tests that IP

    Other commands you probably won't need.

    [This message has been edited by Random Chaos (edited 01-25-2003).]
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    run Mac servers.. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

    quite seriously...

    The root cause of this whole incident is the fact that the worm attacks SQL databases, Micro$oft products, because they are so damned common, a monopoly.

    How many viruses have been written for Macs and Linux systems ??

    Buy Macs, buy Linux, or watch the intenet go to hell my friends.
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    [url="http://www.tamyk.net/MicrosoftSQLServer.jpg"]http://www.tamyk.net/MicrosoftSQLServer.jpg[/url] do I need to say more? (it is the network I am on...)
  • MundaneMundane Elite Ranger
    [quote]Originally posted by shadow boxer:
    [b]run Mac servers.. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

    quite seriously...

    The root cause of this whole incident is the fact that the worm attacks SQL databases, Micro$oft products, because they are so damned common, a monopoly.

    How many viruses have been written for Macs and Linux systems ??

    Buy Macs, buy Linux, or watch the intenet go to hell my friends.[/b][/quote]

    does MAC servers exist? :P
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    So false: "The root cause of this whole incident is the fact that the worm attacks SQL databases, Micro$oft products, because they are so damned common, a monopoly."

    25% of the internet is MS.
    75% of the internet is Unix/Linux.

    Nice try...this worm only hit 25% of the internet, and only the unpatched ones. The other 75% couldn't be infected.

    And Mac doesn't even rate in terms of a percentage of servers...
  • mambo_mordenmambo_morden Earthforce Officer
    Our network went down last night - and is still actin' up. It'd be horrible if there was a major unix hack out!
  • looks like Chase is getting things going again...

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    [b]whitestar90: [/b]"it would give the computer a heartattack just looking at it" -
    [b]Sanfam: [/b]"And Drazi didn't like it one bit.-
    [b]Mr.Bungle: [/b][i]"So that's where the forum went..."[/i]-
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    [b][i]ahhh, the good old days of HTML.[/i][/b]
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    My network has been up and down all day long. It's still doing it.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Fortunately, Chase didn't have many problems because RadiusCo is intelligent enough to run Linux. It was someone upstream of them that was having trouble.

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    [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Never eat anything bigger than your own head.[/url]
    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • [quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
    [B]Apparently at one point 5 of the root DNS servers were down. Currently pretty much all of UUNet is dead in the water.[/quote]

    Where did you hear that? I was reading posts from network engineers who were claiming just the opposite - that none of the root DNS servers were down. However, some were suggesting the 'net was hit pretty heavily by what may be a worm exploiting a vulnerability in Microsoft SQL to conduct DDOS attacks.
  • [quote]Originally posted by shadow boxer:
    [b]How many viruses have been written for Macs and Linux systems ??[/b][/quote]

    Due to the fact that there are comparatively few Macs out there, I'd say a few but not many. UNIX, however...plenty.
  • [quote]Originally posted by Random Chaos:
    [b]The other 75% couldn't be infected.[/b][/quote]

    ...but can be hammered by the end-result of other systems being affected. A server doesn't have to run Windows to be the target of a Windows-originated DDOS attack. SYN floods, etc.
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [quote]Originally posted by JohnD:
    [b] Where did you hear that? I was reading posts from network engineers who were claiming just the opposite - that none of the root DNS servers were down. However, some were suggesting the 'net was hit pretty heavily by what may be a worm exploiting a vulnerability in Microsoft SQL to conduct DDOS attacks.[/b][/quote]


    I read that it was 5 of the main routers were down, not DNS servers.
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [quote]Originally posted by JohnD:
    [b] Due to the fact that there are comparatively few Macs out there, I'd say a few but not many. UNIX, however...plenty.[/b][/quote]


    Not true. No "viruses" have been written for Linux - they don't work. However, plenty of Worms and Trojans have been written for Linux.

    Remember the difference between Virus, Worm, and Trojan. They do different things.
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [quote]Originally posted by JohnD:
    [b] ...but can be hammered by the end-result of other systems being affected. A server doesn't have to run Windows to be the target of a Windows-originated DDOS attack. SYN floods, etc.[/b][/quote]


    The point was to prove to our resident Mac provider that the majority of the systems already weren't Windows and that he was just blowing his mouth for no reason [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    careful there random, youre beginning to sound like youre attacking me rather than the comments I'm posting...if you are attacking me... blow it out your arse Pus-C boy. If not then perhaps you should be careful with how you phrase what you say.

    And I didn't say there were lots of Mac servers out there, there aren't. Chiefly because they are expensive. And again as always, they are known to be as stable as ****... just like regular Macs... and if I'm not mistaken one usually aims to have extremely long uptime Vs downtime when one considers servers...

    things may have changed somewhat since the last Macserver I knew much about was pre Jaguar so I cant really comment now... but knowing Macs they will be much the same as they were.. bullet proof, perhaps still on par with Unix servers.

    anyways, my comments still stand M$ft sucks, and it will continue to suck.

    besides... while there are merits in all being able to talk to each other out here in the cyberverse, we face great peril if we have one single OS/basic system, without diversity all it takes is one mean mother ****er virus/trojan/nefarious little piece of code and we are all screwed.

    the exact same principile applies in nature... without genetic diversity were stuffed... if for instance a virus invaded only two of our current rice varieties... kiss about 1/3 of the worlds population goodbye...

    so...

    I dont so much hate M$ft passe... I hate the threat it represents to our way of life

    in that tone... Macs current catch phrase.. "think different" has a really imperative ring to it doesnt it boys and girls...

    edit : added some profanity

    [This message has been edited by shadow boxer (edited 01-26-2003).]
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    SB, calm down. Stop trying to pick a fight. Oh, and cut down on the profanity.

    [quote]Originally posted by JohnD:
    [b] Where did you hear that? I was reading posts from network engineers who were claiming just the opposite - that none of the root DNS servers were down. However, some were suggesting the 'net was hit pretty heavily by what may be a worm exploiting a vulnerability in Microsoft SQL to conduct DDOS attacks.[/b][/quote]

    It was on Slashdot. I just read it again, and it doesn't actually say "down", it says "effectively disabled".

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    [url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Never eat anything bigger than your own head.[/url]
    "Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    SB: STFU if you can't talk in a civil manner.
  • shadow boxershadow boxer The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
    I'm just like any other Aussie... I never start fights but I sure as hell finish 'em.
  • Rogue TraderRogue Trader Somebody stop him...
    and your opponent always ends up down-under a table.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [quote]Originally posted by Random Chaos:
    [b]
    Not true. No "viruses" have been written for Linux - they don't work. However, plenty of Worms and Trojans have been written for Linux.

    Remember the difference between Virus, Worm, and Trojan. They do different things.[/b][/quote]


    Well... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] You're nitpickng a little... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

    There are two major security holes that have since been addressed since RH version 7.2 . Mandrake 8.2 had the fixes already.

    Bottom line is, that the Linux (and Unix OS for that matter) are much tighter security wise, and have less issues. Benefit of OpenSource, everybody is quick to fix each others mistakes, and no ONE person can manipulate the design for their own agenda.

    Yes, I like Linux (Unix also! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img] ), just need to get more time under the hood with it. I use MS stuff as little as possible now days.

    [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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