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What would you think...

WORFWORF The Burninator
in Babylon 5
...of an only and graphical recreation of B5 (the station), that you could walk around, talk to other people, role play or just have fun, 24/7?

Because I could probably create that.

Worf

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  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    I Sure as hell would love one!
    It better be accurate, though.

    I have always thought that a Mod of the Elite Force is a good idea. What ever happened to Shadows in the Night?
    Hmmm...
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    I've often thought about trying this. I've only created levels in Worldcraft, which is a bit behind the times now...but I think it would be a great project.
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    What about making an "open source" (so to speak) mod of Elite Force? Since it is based off of the Quake III engine, it is certainly capable of being made into almost anything imagionable. I did some searching on the mod forums. The problem with SitN was that it was centralized, and made little progress due to the loss of its leader. Open Sourcing would decentralize, making a collapse due to single component failure unlikely. Anyone for or against?
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    Also: I remember they DID get around to designing a few weapons for the TC. Some were partially modeled. Levels would not be too hard.
    The reason they chose EF was because of the pre-programed squad-based behavior. This would be excelent for Single Player, as you could travel in squads, i.e. a Security team, or such. Nice stuff [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • whitestar90whitestar90 Elite Ranger
    Cool idea, firstones.com in 3d [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    Ok. More updates: did some more checking and it seem that they are actually alive right now, modding Half Life. I still think it would be great if We could get an Elite Force TC going [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
    Hmm?
    Everybody good with this?
    Or how about Anobody? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • ZocaloHoboZocaloHobo Ranger
    hmmmmm, me likes to frag......hehe
  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    I never said it would be 3d...

    And thats an impressive response after i posted that a short while ago.

    Worf

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  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    Well, now I say it should be 3d [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
    Much more immersive than text or 2d. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
    Thanks for reviving this great idea, though [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Sanfam: I'd be in. I have Elite Force and would love to be involved in modding it. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    Actually iv got the station layout already built, I just need to do some graphics and add sound effects.

    You will also need to download something called Furcadia (www.furcadia.com) to be able to play it.

    Worf

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  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    I dreamt about a b5 mod of quake3 this night, before I even saw this topic. I would be very interested in contributing (If I have the time)...

    A 2d version would be cool too, but I bet you would never considering doing one after you've dreamt my dream...

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  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    [quote]Originally posted by WORF:
    [b]...of an only and graphical recreation of B5 (the station), that you could walk around, talk to other people, role play or just have fun, 24/7?

    Because I could probably create that.

    Worf

    [/b][/quote]


    What i'd rather have is the B5 Hotel, A Hotel shaped like B5, and lookin like it inside. Heh, now that would be cool


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  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    What about two projects being spawned from this? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
    I personally would not mind [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
    It would give me something to do over the summer [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    There are differences between the two projects...

    the elite force mod wouldnt be able to handle so many people, but it would look much better and probably be more realisitic

    the 2d mod wouldnt look great and the size of the maps is limited but it can handle loads of people at once.

    Worf

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  • HartsbladeHartsblade Ranger
    Both projects sound great...more details on both please

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    The Elite Force one would be more aimed at actually having some kind of campaign, rather than just wandering around.

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  • SchmackerSchmacker Ranger
    Interested in helpping out how I can, need something to do for awhile... however I dont have Elite Forces... oh well, tell me if I can be of any help.

    [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img](just cause)

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  • RickRick Sector 14 Studios
    Actually, unless EF has the Team Arena codebase, you'll be very disappointed with the performance in large, outdoor areas (like the garden, shuttlebay, etc.). And even then, you'll need a faster than average machine to make walking around the large, open areas of the station's garden ring smooth.

    I've done alot of Doom/Quake/HL mapping, and the way that the Quake engine deals with terrain and large outdoor areas prior to the TA (1.25+) codebase isn't complementary to PCs owned by mere mortals. There are some insanely clever mapping tricks around this, but, depending what your shooting for, you will still run into limitations.

    I believe that this was one of the main reasons the UnReal engine was chosen for the (also cancelled) B5 shooter that was under development in Oakhurst. For that reason, you may want to consider the UnReal Tournament Engine instead.

    Just my $0.02 [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

    [This message has been edited by Rick (edited 06-19-2001).]
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    I've been thinking the same thing.

    But, from what I've heard, the team working on [b]Medal of Honor: Allied Assault[/b] have been able to alter the Quake 3 engine to support large outdoor areas.

    I'll bet you could do the interior of B5 (i.e. the core shuttle area) with something like that -- you'd probalby have to resort to putting the "ceiling" area in a sky-box texture, but I think it would work.

    [This message has been edited by samuelk (edited 06-19-2001).]
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    You know something? Deathmatching in that area would truly rock [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
    Is the enemy ahead? Behind? Left? Right? Above? Upside Down? In the shuttle? The Shadow Knows! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img]
    but you still don't [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]


    So Unreal might be a nice idea, then. Although I will have to try Medal of Honor. From the videos I've seen, it certainly looks like it has worked, and also seems to incorporate squad-based operations. I hope it does [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img] There are so many nifty things that can be done!
  • GNonGNon Trainee
    Worf's would be near a chat room with a graphical representation of the area wouldn't it?
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    How about using the V12 engine? There's a poetic irony here; bear with me. The V12 engine is the Tribes 2 engine without the Tribes 2-specific elements (models, textures, sounds etc.). Garage Games (which is composed of many former Tribes 2 developers) have purchased the engine from Sierra and you can license the engine for only $100.

    The engine is great at doing massive outdoor AND indoor areas.

    Wouldn't it be great to use Sierra's own engine to creat a B5 game? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img]

    [This message has been edited by samuelk (edited 06-20-2001).]
  • C_MonC_Mon A Genuine Sucker
    That would bee evil!!!

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  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    I did a similar thing along time ago but I had it based on Star Trek instead. For those of you who are interested, here is a screenshot.

    [img]http://www.isd-imperium.co.uk/ussintb.jpg[/img]

    I know it doesnt look perfect but thats because I never got around to finishing it.
    This should give you an idea about what to expect...Im also wondering if I should replace the player graphics too...there are 5 races in the game so I could replace them with:

    Human
    Minbari
    Centauri
    Narn
    Drazi

    This would be the hardest part but I think it could be done.

    Worf

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  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    That looks cool, Worf!

    3d-engine: How about q3team or Halo then?

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  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    well something i just read at voodooextreme...
    the Tribes2 engine is licenseable (does that word exist [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]) for only 100 dollars...
  • Anla'Shok Douglas NicolAnla'Shok Douglas Nicol Ranger
    What about a mod for Startopia?

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  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    Ok, iv got what iv done so far of B5 up right now. If you want to come and see, download Furcadia (from [url="http://www.furcadia.com)"]www.furcadia.com)[/url]

    Install and run the program, then press ctrl-A to get to Allegria Island, head NW from the building you start in and you should see a green circle with Babylon 5 written above it. Just step on that and you will be taken to the station.

    NOTE: I havnt finished it yet so there will be problems.

    Worf

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  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I think the Unreal Tournament one sounds promising...

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