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Lord Refa
Creepy, but in a good way
in Zocalo v2.0
So... How does one install another harddrive so they'll work?
I have on that works. Tried putting a "slave" due to some reasons. Well, plugged in, bios didn't recognise either one of them. Played with the cords, bios recognised the other one, the one that was supposed to be the slave. Played with the cords again, bios recognised the old one but wouldn't let the comp work. so... any hints?
Call the guys from Poltergeist?
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
I have on that works. Tried putting a "slave" due to some reasons. Well, plugged in, bios didn't recognise either one of them. Played with the cords, bios recognised the other one, the one that was supposed to be the slave. Played with the cords again, bios recognised the old one but wouldn't let the comp work. so... any hints?
Call the guys from Poltergeist?
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
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Master at the end of the cable
Slave in the next plug
In theory they don't have to be that way unless you have them on cable select, but I am paranoid.
Double check your jumper settings, esp on the new drive.
If you still can't get it to go, you might have either a bad IDE cable or the new hard drive is bad. Replace the cable and try again.
[b]Proper order-
Master at the end of the cable
Slave in the next plug
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Check..
oh well... i'll check it again later, after i've rested.
That works sometimes...
Depends on the BIOS
CS only works if you have a CS cable. Those have a notch in the #1 wire between the IDE drive connectors.
If all else fails, try putting the second drive on the secondary IDE channel.
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AnlaShok, Captain of the Gray Hand of Fate Squadron
Sidhe-1
Wielder of the Big Heavy Hammer of Obvious Truth
"FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!"
Leave your current drive set to master. Set the other drive to slave. The order on the cable [b]does not matter[/b]. Make sure the pin 1 connector is connected on the side of the interface that is nearest to the power connector and that its inserted all the way.
If you still have problems, then its with the drive itself.
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
If you're looking for "how to install a hard drive", try [url="http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/howtoinstallhd/"]here[/url]. Failing that, try google.
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[b]anyone got/know any fancy ass sites in net that show that in unicolor? Pictures? :P
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Ohh come on! This isn't rocket science here! All you have to do is what I posted. Hell, even my mother can do it....and thats saying alot.
Hell, read the damn documentation that came with the drive! It goes step by step!
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[url="http://www.3dap.com/hlp"][b]Hard Light Productions[/b][/url] - [i]Our last best hope for Freespace[/i]
"Isn't the universe a wonderful place? I wouldn't want to live anywhere else! Love to stay! Can't! Have to go. Kiss kiss, love love! Bye!" - G'Kar
[This message has been edited by Vertigo1 (edited 06-01-2002).]
the benefits of very tight hardware architecture controls... you build something for Mac... you build it right first time. Much less crap to deal with with installs etc.
- How large a drive and how old a system.
Some drives may have problems being recognized by older bioses (say, 3 or so years old). What brand drive is it? The maxtor 80GB that I recently installed on my dads computer was not recognized by bios. It came with a setup disk (that was very bugged!). But you had to run the setup AFTER the drive was installed. What you have to do is take the Bios off of AUTO detection - that is what freezes older Bioses and then run the setup disk.
- If you get the drive recognized, and the OS still doesn't find it, what OS?
Some OS's don't support larger drives (I think you have to have Win98 OSR2 in order to recognized drive partitions over 60GBs in the Windows series).
- Check the jumpers.
They should probably be set on Cable Select. But if you are having problems, use the Master/Slave positions. If you have an older Bios, you may have to select a lower cylinder limit jumper position and use software to bypass this limit (yes, you can do that on your primary drive). DO NOT BELIEVE MANUALS! Go online to google. Using the companies web page do a serch as follows: [b]site:{CompanyWWWSite} {drive model}[/b] - this will get you the data on the actual drive. Most manuals are GENERIC and not updated for every drive change - your jumpers have a 99% chance of being different then they were in the manual! Make sure you use the actuall model number off the HD not the box.
- Last resort: Go SCSI [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
It also pays to keep in mind that the jumper schematic on the drive itself can also be printed upside down. Pay extra attention to the sides with the "extra" pin. The single one. I had a fun time with my drives too, until I noticed that the single pin was on the "right" side. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
But the main hd is two years old, and the one i tried to use as slave, is about 5-8 years old. And i just dont feel like messing with my comp atm. :P
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
[b]Care for a 20MB SCSI drive? I think I have one sitting arround somewhere...[/b][/quote]
Maybe, if you happen to be in the vicinity of Finland. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
Actually...its got a dead drive motor. Its about 14-15 years old too.
[b] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
Actually...its got a dead drive motor. Its about 14-15 years old too.[/b][/quote]
That pretty much takes away all my interest for that certain piece of hardware. :P
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[b]20MB? Even my first hard drive was bigger than that. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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My first was about 600 mb.. :P
Could've been less. But hey, it was over 10 years ago, and i used good old dos. Sigh... Syndicate... I remember how much i played that game, and Ufo: Enemy Unknown... memories.. :/ *sniff*
[b] Ohh come on! This isn't rocket science here! All you have to do is what I posted. Hell, even my mother can do it....and thats saying alot.
Hell, read the damn documentation that came with the drive! It goes step by step!
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pff. hush you fool.
Point 1. My mom wouldn't even know how to start a computer, if i hadn't written "press here" on the power button.
Point 2. I've never had any chicken shit clone comps. These have been made from scratch by others. and there's never been any manuals for the hardware of any of the ****ing components given to me.
Point 3. Got the shit working, by ripping out the IDE cable from another comp, and putting it to mine. Cause they (hd's) didn't seem to like each other in the same IDE.
So foobar to you.
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
[b]Probably a bad IDE cable then[/b][/quote]
well... My "real" hd and cd-drive seem to work just fine with it.. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
[b]Probably a bad IDE cable then[/b][/quote]
More likely it is as Lord Refa said, and the hard drives don't like being together. That happens occasionally. They just refuse to coexist on the same cable.
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[b]
More likely it is as Lord Refa said, and the hard drives don't like being together. That happens occasionally. They just refuse to coexist on the same cable.
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I guess the smaller one was jealous of the bigger one... Like human males with the size of each others reproductive machinery. I'm not, but some others might be. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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"Are you a god fearing man, senator? It's such an strange phrase. I've always though of god as a teacher... as a bringer of light, wisdom and understanding. You see, i think what you really are afraid of is me. Me and my kind, the Brotherhood of Mutants. Oh, it's not so suprising really, mankind has always feared what it doesnt understand. Well, dont fear god senator, and certainly dont fear me... not anymore."
btw, this fool just happens to know what he's doing. After all, I have been building computers for the past 8 years for folks. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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[url="http://www.3dap.com/hlp"][b]Hard Light Productions[/b][/url] - [i]Our last best hope for Freespace[/i]
"Isn't the universe a wonderful place? I wouldn't want to live anywhere else! Love to stay! Can't! Have to go. Kiss kiss, love love! Bye!" - G'Kar