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Language of Hope
Elite Ranger
Womöglich ist einmal wieder die Zeit der [url="http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/Forum1/HTML/004585.html"]Vorlonen[/url] (welcher auch immer) herangereift.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
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cu
Chicky
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The best Hope is Future and the future made us stronger.
The fight for the game is now full with heavy flames.
So fängt es also an...
BoardMember at [url="http://www.paraworlds.com"]http://www.paraworlds.com[/url]
[b]ok fellas, I'm home and on my own machine... I have to finalise a few options and a few angles.
in short what I'm hoping to get from the hardcore firstones is some work...
work for which you will be paid for with karma at first... and if it works... in Special Edition sooper dooper copies of a certain game.
I am absolutely loath to build false hopes and IF, and I mean IF, I fail, then I hope you have the great capacity to forgive me if that terrible conclusion comes to pass.
I'm trying my best not to bait anyone... in fact I should say no more till I have my house in order.
my friends, you have been patient this long... wait a few more breaths and it will all fall into place.[/b][/quote]
Hört sich für mich nach ITF an...
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It was the Year of great Babylon 5 Mods and Freewaregames...
It was the Year we get a new B5 Movie...
It was the Year we will hopefully get B5 DVD boxes...
It was the Year 2002...
The Place...Firstones.com
[url="http://ifh.firstones.com/"][IMG]http://ifh.firstones.com/img/banners/banner03.jpg[/IMG][/url]
Markus: "Haben wir gewonnen ???"
Ivanova: "Nicht drüber nachdenken..."
Ja, Hoffnung ist zur Zeit etwas furchtbares. Es knistert mal wieder hier bei FirstOnes...
with vorlonic Regards
Chicky
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The best Hope is Future and the future made us stronger.
The fight for the game is now full with heavy flames.
So fängt es also an...
BoardMember at [url="http://www.paraworlds.com"]http://www.paraworlds.com[/url]
Wenn das wirklich auch nur ansatzweise etwas wird (unabhängig davon, ob wir es dann gemeinsam schaffen), dann haben wir alle jemanden, bei dem wir uns mächtig bedanken können... und wenn vielleicht auch nur für ein bißchen Hoffnung.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
CU Falcon
Ein zweiter Hinweis auf ernsthafte Bemühungen: shadowboxer wohnt in Australien und war vor kurzem in den USA (die Bemerkung bezüglich der langen Flüge meint seinen Rückflug). Dort hat er unter anderem Randy (bei dem hat er übernachtet) und, wie ich glaube, JackN besucht. Das waren sicher nicht nur Freundschaftsbesuche, obwohl ich dem einen oder anderen auch gern mal die Hand schütteln würde [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img].
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
[quote]Originally posted by shadow boxer:
[b]
Ok fellas listen up...
The low down...
As you may have gathered from the rumours and cryptic Vorlo-chat coming from various sources on here I am attempting to bring about a full blooded fully funded professional Babylon project....
and by my count I make it number Five... so heres to auspicious numerology.
Before you go bananas, please, please remember the past and approach this with optimism... and level headed-ness. The Vorlons, you guys and I are all climbing once again into the breach...
and we may not suceed as has happened in the past.
Be grim, but carry the fire in your bellies.
The specifics of the why,where,whens will come to you progressively. Rather than lay absolutely everything out right now and find that it changes the same day, someone will be telling you what happens once it has become a solid reality rather than “ this might happen soon”. We’ve all been burnt badly and pipedreams and maybes will not suffice anymore, so the info you get from here on. with any luck, will be flat out facts.
Now.
To get things going.
The embryonic entity making this game needs to have first of all one thing upon which everything else hinges.
The braindead investor/beancounters out there with the $3 million bucks needed to do this right want to see profits, big numbers. Earnings. Which translates to one thing.
Proof of Market.
A simple statement.
How many units of NeoITF are we likely to sell ?
So “the Studio” needs market research, and the more targeted and related it is to SpaceSims and Babylon Five the better. Paying for market research, especially generalised and ‘globally’ orientated stuff is bad news. The costs are humungus and just how good the data is to one specific game like NeoITF is questionable. So where does a company with no money find good targeted market research ? Normally they don’t, they can’t, they don’t have a loyal band of 2500 supporters to appeal to for help.
Fortunately for NeoITF there is hope, hope because a dogged and determined bunch of nutters is still hanging on, still keeping the light on for something that by most peoples standards should have been dead and buried. ( I mix metaphors.. sosumi )
Very shortly I will give you an Url, an address to a site which has been specifically built to do a few things, namely :
Collect market research targeted at NeoITF with the intention of reaching a target of 20,000+ sample size, ( thats 20,000 people answering a ten question survey ).
Raise awareness of the plight of ITF/NeoITF with a heavy bent towards professional ‘investor shopping’
Give the community a place to make themselves heard in a positive and active way.
The part where the Firstones do some work is actively seeking out people to either fill out the questionaire online or printing out a .pdf file of the questionaire and going out into the gaming community at LAN parties, to thier game shop, thier buddies homes and bringing the data home to thier net access and filling in the questionaire by proxy.
Mind numbingly boring number crunching and data munging, but like everything, it has to be done. We need that data to make any progress at all. No-one will listen to me or anyone else without an indication of how obscenely rich you get by making NeoITF.
I’m hoping the natural competitive spirit most Firstones display will come to the fore...
To encourage that, the intention is to offer some real and tangible incentives to those Firstones who really put in by filling in the questionaire a gazillion times for themselves and by proxy for others.
Those incentives are :
A Firstone collecting more than 100 legitimate entries for the market survey gets thier name in the games credits.
A Firstone collecting more than 500 legitimate entries for the market survey gets thier name in the games credits and a free copy of NeoITF.
A Firstone collecting more than 1000 legitimate entries for the market survey gets thier name in the credits, a free copy of NeoITF and a cloisonne metal badge ( of honour ).
Hopefully with all that on offer the sample size for our marketing survey will climb into orbit. That in itself would be a powerful thing to show an investor. The current sample size will be displayed somewhere on the page so you can all see how we are doing.
Just remember that at this point nothing is carved in stone. You may do all that work for nothing more than good karma. Rest assured with one thing. I and everyone else involved in this will do thier utmost to bring this long held dream into reality.
The questionaire is plain text form is below. A proper digital form will appear on the upcoming site. If you think that there is any other questions that need asking or one of these questions shoudnt be asked... then I welcome your input.
Afterall... the way things are going this game will really be a community effort.
NeoITF is nothing with Firstones... we genuinely need the active assistance of Firstones.
Sanfam has also been gracious enough to give me a .plan finger to keep you updated with... look there too occasionally though I will prolly keep posting here for the big issues.
Ask any questions you need to.... and either I or someone else here will answer...
Go prep youeselves... rustle up some new and old Firstones...
and lets go kick some corporate arse... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
Shadow Boxer
Questionaire;
collected by :
1. sex - male female
2. How many games do you own ?
3. How many have you bought in the last month ?
4 How many have you bought in the last year ?
5. Which are your preffered genres ( pick, in decending order of preference )
FPS RTS TBS SIM GodSIM RPG RACING SPACESIM OTHER
6. Which would you prefer to see your games from the options listed below :
Deluxe display boxed game with full glossy cover paper manual with additional ‘cool’ stuff like stickers and badgepins for a premium title price sold through your local gamers store.
Hardcores discs only in a DVD type case with an online/PDF version manual with minimal extras for a cheaper price from a direct source.
7. Which Space Sims have you played :
Star Wars Series Wing Commander Other
8. Do you think that Space sims are due for a resurgence ?
9. Are you familar with Babylon5 ?
10. Do you like Homeworld ?
[This message has been edited by shadow boxer (edited 01-25-2002).][/b][/quote]
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[b]refferals are tracked by the "collected by" field....
lets say Rhett collects 68 'hits'.... he puts his name/ID in the first field of every entry he makes.... followed in the next field by the person he collected the data from...
his tally is known to us and he is accorded his benefits when the time comes.
the Studio is a made for NeoITF studio, expressly built to start out with this game ( the future of the studio will be open from there )
The ITF materials thing is complex messy and who knows.... good question... you will all know when we do
Everyone can start thier data collection when the site is up. Be patient, the best thing you can do now is chase up those Firstones and compadres who may want to get into this.
Forms are bitches to backend sometimes.... it will take some time... but I'm working on it. I dont want people to start entering data which will dissapear into void at the other end so I have to test it well before I release it.
*** Striker *** report in... I need to talk to you... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
(fixing the incentive number thing now )[/b][/quote]
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It was the Year of great Babylon 5 Mods and Freewaregames...
It was the Year we get a new B5 Movie...
It was the Year we will hopefully get B5 DVD boxes...
It was the Year 2002...
The Place...Firstones.com
[url="http://ifh.firstones.com/"] [img]http://ifh.firstones.com/img/banners/banner03.jpg[/img] [/url]
[This message has been edited by Alpha-1 (edited 01-25-2002).]
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
Ja, irre Neuigkeiten sind das...
cu
Chicky
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The best Hope is Future and the future made us stronger.
The fight for the game is now full with heavy flames.
So fängt es also an...
BoardMember at [url="http://www.paraworlds.com"]http://www.paraworlds.com[/url]
Ich bin gespannt, wie sich das weiterentwickelt.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
[quote]
I don't mean to piss on your parade (really, I don't), but with Warner Brothers keeping all B5 licensing in a lock-down, no one can even begin to pursue development with any hope of seeing it get to market.
There is a real catch 22 here. WB will not agree to even contemplate granting a license until a developer can show them they have the money and ability to deliver the game. On the other hand, anyone willing to fork over the cash to fund development, will need to have some degree of certainty that the license is obtainable -which it curently isn't.
Marc
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Naja, da sind se wieder, die Rechtefragen. Ob sich Warner wohl hinreissen lässt ???
cu
Chicky
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The best Hope is Future and the future made us stronger.
The fight for the game is now full with heavy flames.
So fängt es also an...
BoardMember at [url="http://www.paraworlds.com"]http://www.paraworlds.com[/url]
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
Ich will die Idee bestimmt nicht schlecht machen und ich freue mich wirklich, dass wieder ein Versuch gestartet wird, aber ich habe eher geringe Hoffnung, was das Gelingen einer solchen Aktion betrifft.
Allerdings ist so eine Umfrage wohl der beste Anfang für eine Wiederbelebung von ITF.
CU Falcon
[b]Ich find's ja klasse, dass man das Spiel immer noch nicht sterben lassen will, aber bin ich hier der einzige, der seine Zweifel hat, dass so was funktioniert.
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Nein, das ganz sicher nicht. Mein letzter Beitrag klang doch auch nicht so, oder?!
Ich weiß, das ist jetzt die pure Polemik, aber wann hast Du Dir vorgenommen, ein super-interessantes Leben zu führen mit allem, was Du Dir darin wünschst? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img] Ein Schritt nach dem anderen. Wenn dieser Versuch auch nur dazu führt, daß WB oder irgendjemand anderes seine Meinung zu diesem Thema ändert, dann kann dieser Versuch auch Früchte zeigen, wenn er selbst scheitert.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
CU Falcon
P.S.: Irgendwer musste ja den Spielverderber spielen, also hab ich den Job übernommen. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
@LoH: Mit Deinen Spruch [i]"wann hast Du Dir vorgenommen, ein super-interessantes Leben zu führen mit allem, was Du Dir darin wünschst"[/i] kann ich irgendwie überhaupt nix anfangen [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/confused.gif[/img]
*aufschlauchsteh*
[b]Ich kapier wieder nix!
*aufschlauchsteh*[/b][/quote]
Das macht nichts. Tatsache ist nun mal, dass dieses Game den Ansatz eines vierten Anlaufs erleben wird, es doch noch ( oder wieder ??? ) zum Leben zu erwecken.
In dem Threat, in dem das ganze begonnen hat ist bereits eine Diskussion entbrannt, die mich schon fast umgehauen hat. Es geht dort z. B. darum, ob Homeworld als Referenz zu einer Umfrage genutzt werden soll. ( Diejenigen, die schon länger da sind wissen, dass Homeworld von Sierra vertrieben wurde und ITF von Sierra gecancelt wurde ( ob das als Referenz verwenden kann?? ) )
Es hat auch niemals jemand behauptet, dass es leicht würde, nochmals einen Anlauf zu starten. Das ganze wird wahrscheinlich hochkompliziert. Aber es gar nicht erst zu versuchen ( wenn jemand die Mittel und Wege hat dies zu tun ) wäre das schlimmste, was es gibt. ( Hätte ich die Mittel dazu, wäre ich jetzt wahrscheinlich "Shadow Boxer" )
WIR können in diesem Moment nur Unterstützen.
Da ich mit Shadow noch keinen Kontakt aufgenommen habe weiss ich auch noch nicht genau, wie das ganze weiterhin abläuft. Vielleicht mache ich das ja noch. Wie auch immer, es wurde wieder ein Stein ins Rollen gebracht und wir werden erfahren, was uns die Zukunft bringt.
with vorlonic Regards
Chicky
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The best Hope is Future and the future made us stronger.
The fight for the game is now full with heavy flames.
So fängt es also an...
BoardMember at [url="http://www.paraworlds.com"]http://www.paraworlds.com[/url]
Ich persönlich würde ihm ja gerne mehr helfen, als nur ein paar umfrageergebnisse bereitzustellen....
[b]Irgendwer musste ja den Spielverderber spielen, also hab ich den Job übernommen. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
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[img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img] Ja, das ist auch wichtig... bei aller Freude, daß es vielleicht doch irgendwie weiter geht, hat dieser Versuch eine riesige Menge Klippen zu umschiffen.
[quote][b]@LoH: Mit Deinen Spruch [i]"wann hast Du Dir vorgenommen, ein super-interessantes Leben zu führen mit allem, was Du Dir darin wünschst"[/i] kann ich irgendwie überhaupt nix anfangen [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/confused.gif[/img][/b][/quote]
Kein Wunder, ich versteh's ja selbst kaum mehr [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]. Was ich meinte, war nur, daß wir nicht wissen, was uns in unserem Leben, an einem Tag oder eben bei einem solchen Versuch, B5:ITF zu retten passieren wird oder vor welchen Problemen wir stehen werden. Deshalb auch im nächsten Satz "Ein Schritt nach dem anderen".
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
[quote]
I asked SB if it was all right to take a look at the questions in his questionnaire. This is the revised questionaire that I came up with. SB is still working on the final, so I'm not sure what questions will be used. He suggested I post the questions I came up with here and get everyones opinions, let me know what you think.
Jake
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Video Gaming Questionnaire
1) Please indicate your gender
? Male
? Female
2) Please indicate your age group
? Under 15
? 15-18
? 18-25
? 25-45
? Over 45
I figured it would be good to have this info also
3) Of the PC games you have purchased in the last year please list them by genre (Indicated the number purchased in each category)
___ First Person Shooter (Quake, Red Faction)
___ Real Time Strategy (Starcraft, ???)
___ Turn Based Strategy (need example)
___ Sims (Simcity, Roller Coaster Tycoon)
___ God Sims (Civilization, Black and White)
___ Role Playing Game (Balder’s Gate, ????)
___ Racing Simulator (Nascar)
___ Flight Simulator (Microsoft Flight Simulator, ????)
___ Space Combat Simulator (Wing Commander, Freespace)
___ Other
I combined the number of games purchased into this question, helping to break the games purchased down by genre.
4) Of the following genres please list your three favorites (Select Three)
? First Person Shooter (Quake, Red Faction)
? Real Time Strategy (Starcraft, ???)
? Turn Based Strategy (????)
? Sims (Simcity, Roller Coaster Tycoon)
? God Sims (Civilization, Black and White)
? Role Playing Game (Balder’s Gate, ????)
? Racing Simulator (Nascar, Dirt Track Racing)
? Flight Simulator (Microsoft Flight Simulator, ????)
? Space Combat Simulator (Wing Commander, Freespace)
? Other
I structured this question so it would be easy to set up on a web site. Though I am not real familiar with web site design, I figured it would be easier to ask them to select three of their favorites, rather than rank them. If it can be made easy for the person being surveyed to rank them, it should be done that way.
5) At what outlet do you most often purchase your PC games? (Select One)
? Internet Retailer (Amazon.com, ????)
? Mail Order (not internet)
? Direct From Publisher
? Software Only Retailers (Electronics Boutique, ????)
? Electronics Stores (Best Buy, Circuit City)
? Discount Retailers (Wal-Mart, Target)
? Other
Yet another question I thought would be good info, help you figure out what outlets people purchase their games.
6) When you purchase PC games from a store are you more likely to buy games…
? With full packaging and documentation , possibly with extras such as collector’s pins
Or
? With a simple jewel case and minimal documentation
I changed this question to take out the money part. It’s been my experience if you ask any questions concerning money you will skew your answers. If you ask a question on a survey that gives a more expensive choice Vs a cheaper choice, many people will go for the cheaper choice, where as the reality is, that customer may purchase the more expensive items due to things like name brand, and packaging.
7) A) Which of the following space combat simulations series or games have you played
? X-wing Series
? Wing Commander Series
? Freespace Series
? I-war Series
? Need more choices
? I do not play space sims
B) Of the games listed above which did you find most enjoyable? (Select One)
? X-wing Series
? Wing Commander Series
? Freespace Series
? I-war Series
? Need more choices
C) In regards to the previous question, what features of that game did you find the most enjoyable?
? Story and Story line
? Quality of Graphics
? Game play (Mission layout, control interface)
? Realistic Physics
? Cinematic Cutscenes
? Artwork (ship designs, backdrop designs)
? ????
? Other
I added questions B and C to get an idea which space sims they liked the most and why.
8) Which of the following space combat simulators would you most like to see introduced or reintroduced? (Select One)
? Another installment of X-Wing
? Another installment of Wing Commander
? Another installment of Freespace
? A Babylon 5 Space Sim
? ?????
Rather than ask whether someone felt space sims are do for a resurgence I felt it would be easier to measure if you asked people what they wanted rather then their opinions.
9) How familiar are you with the TV series Babylon 5?
? Never heard of it
? Slightly familiar
? Familiar
? Very Familiar
? Fanatical
10) A) Have you player the PC game Homeworld
? Yes
? No
B) If so what feature of the game did you enjoy the most? (Select One)
? ????
? ????
I added B to question 10 to help determine what about Homeworld game players enjoyed (Since I have not played Homeworld, I did not fill in the features)
Note: Any question marks indicate more choices or more examples are needed
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ein erster Entwurf ist nun also fertiggestellt.
with vorlonic Regards
Chicky
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The best Hope is Future and the future made us stronger.
The fight for the game is now full with heavy flames.
So fängt es also an...
BoardMember at [url="http://www.paraworlds.com"]http://www.paraworlds.com[/url]
[quote]Originally posted by shadow boxer:
[b]With thanks to Striker and Jason ( whom none of you prolly know ), the Survey is up.
It's pretty self explanatory and it works as far as I'm aware.. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img] **touch wood/cross fingers/hail Valen
The only thing that does need explaining is this.
In order for you guys to collect 'scalp points'.. ie earn yourself the 'free stuff' by getting all your buddies to fill it in, you have to make sure that they fill in your refferer ID exactly the same every time. We wont be held responsible for you losing scalps because you chose an ID that was hard to remember/type.
What we would prefer is you pick a six charcter version (or shorter) of your Firstones handle. Make sure its easily typed and easy to sift out from a dbase. The ID is only another field in the dbase, not a separate registration, so it has to be accurate for us to pull your scalps from the data.
This was the quickest and least painful way of getting the thing sorted... registration and all that would have bogged it all down...
So its an honesty system. Please dont abuse it by sending in bogus smurfy data...spikes in the data will be treated with the utmost suspicion so don't expect a 'free ride'. If your collection seems dodgy you'll be asked to backup where you got your data.
Keep the reward system pretty low key, there will no doubt be some unscrupulous personages out there who may want to exploit this system.
In an effort to contain that sort of BS. No-one will know precisely what will be given away and for what level of scalps achieved. As always I expect that will be a democratic decision made by all of us.
You'll also find a link to a .pdf printable version of the survey, so even when you are away from a computer you can collect data...
It just means you have to enter the data using your ID.
Thanks to Hartsblade for knocking it up.
So boys and girls... go forth and prove your worth and the strength I know Firstones posesses...
Collect that data... my target is 20,000 hits...
lets see how quickly you blow that away.
[img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
the survey
[url="http://gamesurvey.radiusco.com/survey.php"]http://gamesurvey.radiusco.com/survey.php[/url]
the .pdf version
[url="http://gamesurvey.radiusco.com/ItFSurvey.pdf"]http://gamesurvey.radiusco.com/ItFSurvey.pdf[/url] [/b][/quote]
EDIT: Wie siht es eigentlich mit einer deutschen Version des ITF Surveys aus?
Wer arbeitet daran und wann ist sie etwa fertig, sodass wie sie verbreiten können in Newsgroups, Foren, Websites, etc.?
[This message has been edited by Alpha-1 (edited 03-11-2002).]
Ich bin eigentlichein bißchen enttäuscht von der Überarbeitung der Umfrage. Viel mehr als Textänderungen kann ich nicht erkennen, dabei wollte doch Freejack(?), ein Marketing-Mensch mithelfen.
Meine Freundin hat im Nebenfach Kommunikations- und Medienwissenschaften studiert und in diesem Rahmen auch behandelt, wie eine solche Umfrage aufgebaut werden sollte, was man nicht tun sollte etc.
Ihr war sofort das eine oder andere aufgefallen, was sie mir gestern auch genauer gesagt hat und ich heute versuchen werde, shadow boxer mitzuteilen. Ich hoffe, daß er darauf eingeht.
Nach seiner Anwort weiß ich, was ich übersetzen soll, und dann kann's losgehen. Wenn Ihr mir sagen könntet, wie man am besten die Spiele-Genres übersetzt, wäre das sicher eine Hilfe für mich [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img].
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
First Person Shooter - (Unreal Tournament, Quake, Half-Life,...)
First Person Shooter ( Wörtlich übersetzt wären das " In der ersten Person Schiesser könnte man vielleicht auch als Kampfspiel in der ersten Person umschreiben.... ( hat noch jemand 'ne bessere Idee ???))
Sports Simulator - (EA Basketball, Snowboarding???,...)
Sportsimulationen
Real Time Strategy - (Starcraft, Warcraft, Command & Conquer,...)
Echtzeitstrategie
Space Combat Simulator - (Wing Commander, X-Wing, Freespace,...)
Raumkampfsimulation
Flight Simulator - (MS Flight Simulator, Falcon 4.0,...)
Flugsimulator
Racing Simulator - (NASCAR, TOCA Touring Cars,,...)
Rennsimulator
Role Playing Game - (Baldurs Gate, Fallout, Ultima,...)
Rollenspiel
Sims - (Simcity, Civilization, Black & White,...)
Wirtschafts- und Aufbausimulationen
Fighter (Beat 'em Up) - (Tekken, Soulblade, Mortal Kombat...)
Beat 'em Up / Kampfsport oder Prügelspiele
Turn Based Strategy - (Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri,...)
Rundenbasierte Strategiespiele
So, ich hoffe dass dir damit geholfen ist.
with best Regards
Cyce
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[This message has been edited by First Cyclops (edited 03-12-2002).]
Wie lange brachst du ungefähr für die Übersetzungsarbeiten biss alles fertig ist?
Ich wollte nämlich eben anfangen in der deutschen B5 Newsgroup wegen dem Survey was zu posten, aber wenn du z.B. in einer Woche oder so mit allem fertig bis werde ich noch warten. Oder meinst du ich könnte ruhig schonmal anfangen die Leute in den Foren zum sich eintragen zu bewegen?
EDIT: hab's schonmal in 2 englischen b5 newsgroups gepostet [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
Freue mich schon auf das Gamestar Forum *ggg*
[This message has been edited by Alpha-1 (edited 03-12-2002).]
Statt First-Person-Shooter kann man auch Ego-Shooter nehemen, ist, denke ich, etwas gebräuchlicher, geht aber beides.
Statt Raumkampfsimulation würde ich Weltraumsimulation nehmen. Ersteres ist zwar vielleicht treffender, aber der zweite Ausdruck findet dafür häufiger Anwendung.
Statt Rennsimulator würde ich Rennsimulation nehmen.
Das wären meine Alternativvorschläge. Die von First Cyclops vorgeschlagenen Bezeichnungen dürfte aber wohl auch jeder ohne Probleme verstehen.
CU Falcon
Wenn jemand noch heute dazu kommt, die Übersetzung zu machen, dann schreibt es hier rein und fangt danach an. Ansonsten mache ich es morgen früh und geb vorher hier Bescheid. Ich komme heute nicht dazu.
Ein anderer sollte dann nochmal drüberlesen.
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aber das Teil hab ich dann wenigstens schnell ausgefüllt [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]