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The Finger Painter & Master Ranter
in Babylon 5
This is a letter I recieved. The only good thing to come of it is the fact that it kind of drawsa nice parallel with Babylon Five.... at last count we've had three attempts at building this Babylon project... and this still born one makes Four...
bring on the best last hope.....
From:
JmsatB5@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date:
Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:31:27 EDT
Subject:
Re: Firstones/Space Sim some assistance ?
To:
craegs@yahoo.com
In a message dated 7/1/2001 12:30:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
craegs@yahoo.com writes:
> We want to turn ITF into a community project. Make no pretense at
> even making any money from the project. Simply start some sort of
> fundraising drive to pay for the games production, effectively
make
> the game by public subscription, by sponsorship and by whatever
other
> means we can employ. The Firstones are about as unflagging as
> Rangers, and we feel that given an opportunity we could make this
> work. It seems we have an ingrained stubborn inability to accept
"no"
> as an answer.
>
> The biggest stumbling block for us is the licensing. Warner
> Interactive or whomever would be responsible for the licensing of
> this project would have to be amenable to us even attempting this,
so
> before we get our hopes up for the fourth time, I thought it best
to
> persue some sort of dialogue with WB and perhaps yourself.
Won't happen. Flat-out. WB will never function in the kind of
scenario you
propose; if the group or company can't pony up money and control the
situation more than is described here, and put out an actual product
with a
distribution and marketing plan, they'll just never go for it. It's
not even
a conversation I can have with them, those are the rules they apply
to every
show or movie.
jms
bring on the best last hope.....
From:
JmsatB5@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date:
Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:31:27 EDT
Subject:
Re: Firstones/Space Sim some assistance ?
To:
craegs@yahoo.com
In a message dated 7/1/2001 12:30:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
craegs@yahoo.com writes:
> We want to turn ITF into a community project. Make no pretense at
> even making any money from the project. Simply start some sort of
> fundraising drive to pay for the games production, effectively
make
> the game by public subscription, by sponsorship and by whatever
other
> means we can employ. The Firstones are about as unflagging as
> Rangers, and we feel that given an opportunity we could make this
> work. It seems we have an ingrained stubborn inability to accept
"no"
> as an answer.
>
> The biggest stumbling block for us is the licensing. Warner
> Interactive or whomever would be responsible for the licensing of
> this project would have to be amenable to us even attempting this,
so
> before we get our hopes up for the fourth time, I thought it best
to
> persue some sort of dialogue with WB and perhaps yourself.
Won't happen. Flat-out. WB will never function in the kind of
scenario you
propose; if the group or company can't pony up money and control the
situation more than is described here, and put out an actual product
with a
distribution and marketing plan, they'll just never go for it. It's
not even
a conversation I can have with them, those are the rules they apply
to every
show or movie.
jms
Comments
Although worth trying, it was nearly impossible to receive a positive answer. For WB as a company, B5 is simply a trademark to make money with. Your proposal would mean for them to cast doubt on their business which they simply won't do.
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We will not give up!
Perhaps we could simply annoy them enough to give a license to shut us up [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] That would be an interesting achievement. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
Anyhoo, this is not a sign of failure. That is reserved for surrender. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
Just a suggestion.
I would say if you want to continue, leave him out of it.
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I only asked Jms cos he's near the top o the tree... I expected as much... I only gave him the barest outline... it just means the pitch changes a bit...
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Cherio.
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[b]padded Taxi for Faylorn......
I only asked Jms cos he's near the top o the tree... I expected as much... I only gave him the barest outline... it just means the pitch changes a bit...[/b][/quote]
I feel it is always best to ask for advise from the man himself... he always gives good advice.
At least we can start looking to other avenues.....
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'I have no surviving enemies! None what so ever!' Galen
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[b]heh. JMS shoots the case down for anohter try [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img] Well, I say we try again, and again, and again, and again, and again...
We will not give up!
Perhaps we could simply annoy them enough to give a license to shut us up [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] That would be an interesting achievement. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img][/b][/quote]
This idea has merit! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] I say we try it. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/tongue.gif[/img]
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[b]Worf[/b]: *roars loudly*
[b]Wesley[/b]: So you are saying i should roar?
[b]Worf[/b]: No. The women roar..... and hurl heavy objects.
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[b]Perhaps we could simply annoy them enough to give a license to shut us up[/b][/quote]
Thats how we should handle Sierra [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img],not WB.
If Sierra would donate the IP to our cause that would give our community project more credibility and maybe WB would show more interest.
We should probably find out if Sierra still has the IP.
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[This message has been edited by allanmc (edited 07-05-2001).]