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I think it might look better between the two wings, but I couldn't find a side view of a StarFurry.. Then again, a StarFury might not even be in the movie, but I'm not lucky enough to be in a position to know that. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
Please note, I am *not* an image guy, I'm a code pig, and all I did was stick some Sierra logos (ganked from their site) w/ X's on a picture from another site. I'm sure this is not legal by any means, but I left the copyright info on the picture, so hopefully "borrowing" that image isn't too bad...
Also, this jabs at Sierra more than references this site. I think it'd be really funny if you could get permission to rename an Omega or Warlock 'Aardvark', though... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
-- Walker
[This message has been edited by Walker (edited 06-06-2001).]
That's looking kinda cool.
I can't tell you whether or not there are Starfuries in the movie, but I can suggest this. Think about previous eps of B5 and where you see the furies in those. The ships are usually moving and have the usual amount of blur. So little markings probably aren't a good idea since one won't be able to see them. Even the wing art between the wings is often hard to make out. So keep this in mind when you're thinking of stuff.
I like a lot of these ideas though [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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[url="http://slade__tek.tripod.com/"]Alec McClymont, 3D Artist[/url]
3D Artist - GVFX
Some other quick ideas (may have been posted already, my apologies to those who said it first)...
An aardvark (or something similar) constellation in the background...
If you do the images on the terminals, maybe in *small* *small* text the words "Save B5:ITF!", "Aardvark", "Green!", or some other catch-phrase I've missed out on in my lurkings.. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
Or maybe on the terminal put one of the vorlon or shadow smiley faces in the corner...
The word "VORKLIFT" on the back of a maintenance bot...
A fighter with a solid green decal going at it with an enemy fighter with a solid purple decal...
... that's about all I can come up with right now...
-- Walker
[This message has been edited by Walker (edited 06-06-2001).]
This is too funny. It has to be somekind of Sierra Jab....that would put a HUGE smile on my face [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
Walker: That looks great, but there is one problem: That's at high resolution. Try rendering it at TV resolution then adding a [b]significant[/b] amount of blur, the way a TV does. Unfortunately, you won't see anything at all without an extremely obvious looking close up.
I personally thing Aardvark wingart is the best idea. It isn't too difficult to get a shot of wingart in there, just get a shot of a Starfury flying past a top-down camera. Sam's idea is all good, except that it is far far too subtle, and most people would not pick it up at all. For one thing, not many people know that is the logo of F111 squadron. Secondly, even less know that the F111 jet's nickname is the "Aardvark". I doubt many would pick up the "FO" either.
Green aardvark wingart is the least subtle, so people who know about it would probably pick it up, but it isn't glaringly obvious as being First Ones. It could easily be passed off as being the wingart of someone who likes aardvarks.
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
But subtle is good...subtle is what Babylon 5 is all about...
There are certain layers of Babylon 5 that many people don't know about until they dig... that's the beauty of the show.
[quote]Sam's idea is all good, except that it is far far too subtle, and most people would not pick it up at all.[/quote]
That's also the idea. If you stick a reference to something outside the B5 tv/film universe INTO the B5 tv/film universe, it HAS to be subtle, else it will cause a comotion (like the Hypernauts frame that was snuck into one episode).
The squadron logo works because it fits and makes sense.
I would much rather be associated with a subtle reference that's buried under a couple of layers, than with a loud obvious sign that says, "Hey! Look at me!"
[This message has been edited by samuelk (edited 06-07-2001).]
[quote]Originally posted by Slade:
[b]Hey everyone. I just had an idea of putting some kind of Firstones hint in the textures of the ships we're making for B5:LR. I don't really have any ideas except to maybe use Shadow Boxer's Firstones icon (great job on that!). Obviously it's not going to be a major thing, I'll have to sneak it in somewhere where it might not be noticed unless you're looking for it.
So if anyone has any cool little Firstones related graphics post 'em here and I'll take a look. I don't think anything with text would work too well so try and avoid that. Also, if you would please try and keep this confined to these forums I would appreciate it. The last thing I need are a bunch of emails from people I don't know sending me their graphic work. Thanks again!
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Well heres my .02 Ducats. I like the Aardvark idea. its subtle and everyone here would know what it is.
PLUS it would prolly confuse anyone else who happend to notice it, and i'm all for that.
hehe.. "Vorklift" on the back of a maintbot would also be interesting.. hehehe.. Sorry, that one gave me a chuckle 'cause only WE would know what it meant... Then again, same as the green aardvark. Subtle..yet blatently obvious to those who know
I'm definitely with Biggles on this, a simple green aadvark would be really clear (particularly as Slade said that text wouldn't work too well) and people in the know would understand it. It's also [i]completely [/i]Firstones and doesn't exist as a meaningful symbol anywhere else.
Something definitely makes me feel slightly uneasy about the whole Sierra kill counter thing - or was it just that suspicious looking sausage I had for lunch?
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Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
Sam: Can we get that in green? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
I think that an aardvark is just the right amount of subtleness. Another thing to remember is that with that F111 logo idea... the F111 is a US thing. Russians, for example, wouldn't have the faintest clue about it. An aardvark is universal.
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Perhaps if somthing explodes, you can do one of those cool wipe shots where a piece of the ship hurtles toward the camera, like the first upper door to B5 at the end of Sleeping in Light. Except have this piece in the shape of the aardvark shape I've seen so often. Or perhaps the same for the nebula, or maybe a hidden pattern in the White Star's coat, like Sierra in shadow skin.
It's a fantastic purple aardvark from Hell!! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/eek.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
Love it! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
Cherio.
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Mater tva criceta fvit, et pater tvo redolvit bacarvm sambvcvs.
Is that actually an image directly from the show, or did Sierra do something to it afterwards?
What I mean is: if I were to watch that episode and pause it at that moment, would I see the word 'Sierra' on the TV?
Either way, it's cool! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
Cherio.
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Catapvltam habeo. Nisi pecvniam omnem mihi dabis, ad capvt tvvm saxvm immane mittam.
Mater tva criceta fvit, et pater tvo redolvit bacarvm sambvcvs.
Ok here is an idea, If there is an EA ship destroyed in the movie why don't you just name it the Sierra. To anybody else that is just a radom ship name that was picked, but to fans of the game it's a great little jab.
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... and the full image is here -
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EDIT 2: I really hate Yahoo. If the images don't work, just goto the following URL..
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I think it might look better between the two wings, but I couldn't find a side view of a StarFurry.. Then again, a StarFury might not even be in the movie, but I'm not lucky enough to be in a position to know that. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
Please note, I am *not* an image guy, I'm a code pig, and all I did was stick some Sierra logos (ganked from their site) w/ X's on a picture from another site. I'm sure this is not legal by any means, but I left the copyright info on the picture, so hopefully "borrowing" that image isn't too bad...
Also, this jabs at Sierra more than references this site. I think it'd be really funny if you could get permission to rename an Omega or Warlock 'Aardvark', though... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
-- Walker
[This message has been edited by Walker (edited 06-06-2001).]
I can't tell you whether or not there are Starfuries in the movie, but I can suggest this. Think about previous eps of B5 and where you see the furies in those. The ships are usually moving and have the usual amount of blur. So little markings probably aren't a good idea since one won't be able to see them. Even the wing art between the wings is often hard to make out. So keep this in mind when you're thinking of stuff.
I like a lot of these ideas though [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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[url="http://slade__tek.tripod.com/"]Alec McClymont, 3D Artist[/url]
3D Artist - GVFX
We live for the one. We die for the one.
An aardvark (or something similar) constellation in the background...
If you do the images on the terminals, maybe in *small* *small* text the words "Save B5:ITF!", "Aardvark", "Green!", or some other catch-phrase I've missed out on in my lurkings.. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
Or maybe on the terminal put one of the vorlon or shadow smiley faces in the corner...
The word "VORKLIFT" on the back of a maintenance bot...
A fighter with a solid green decal going at it with an enemy fighter with a solid purple decal...
... that's about all I can come up with right now...
-- Walker
[This message has been edited by Walker (edited 06-06-2001).]
I personally thing Aardvark wingart is the best idea. It isn't too difficult to get a shot of wingart in there, just get a shot of a Starfury flying past a top-down camera. Sam's idea is all good, except that it is far far too subtle, and most people would not pick it up at all. For one thing, not many people know that is the logo of F111 squadron. Secondly, even less know that the F111 jet's nickname is the "Aardvark". I doubt many would pick up the "FO" either.
Green aardvark wingart is the least subtle, so people who know about it would probably pick it up, but it isn't glaringly obvious as being First Ones. It could easily be passed off as being the wingart of someone who likes aardvarks.
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Another thing to do is have this number appear somewhere:
19-01-22-05 02-E-09-20-06
or this:
060918192015140519
And Sierra kill-marks would be awesome!
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Vir - Are you saying you don't trust me anymore? I made your favourite, Spoo.
Londo - I'll order in.
There are certain layers of Babylon 5 that many people don't know about until they dig... that's the beauty of the show.
[quote]Sam's idea is all good, except that it is far far too subtle, and most people would not pick it up at all.[/quote]
That's also the idea. If you stick a reference to something outside the B5 tv/film universe INTO the B5 tv/film universe, it HAS to be subtle, else it will cause a comotion (like the Hypernauts frame that was snuck into one episode).
The squadron logo works because it fits and makes sense.
I would much rather be associated with a subtle reference that's buried under a couple of layers, than with a loud obvious sign that says, "Hey! Look at me!"
[This message has been edited by samuelk (edited 06-07-2001).]
[b]Hey everyone. I just had an idea of putting some kind of Firstones hint in the textures of the ships we're making for B5:LR. I don't really have any ideas except to maybe use Shadow Boxer's Firstones icon (great job on that!). Obviously it's not going to be a major thing, I'll have to sneak it in somewhere where it might not be noticed unless you're looking for it.
So if anyone has any cool little Firstones related graphics post 'em here and I'll take a look. I don't think anything with text would work too well so try and avoid that. Also, if you would please try and keep this confined to these forums I would appreciate it. The last thing I need are a bunch of emails from people I don't know sending me their graphic work. Thanks again!
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Well heres my .02 Ducats. I like the Aardvark idea. its subtle and everyone here would know what it is.
PLUS it would prolly confuse anyone else who happend to notice it, and i'm all for that.
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Something definitely makes me feel slightly uneasy about the whole Sierra kill counter thing - or was it just that suspicious looking sausage I had for lunch?
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possibly futile, but very human.
I think that an aardvark is just the right amount of subtleness. Another thing to remember is that with that F111 logo idea... the F111 is a US thing. Russians, for example, wouldn't have the faintest clue about it. An aardvark is universal.
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Love it! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
Cherio.
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Mater tva criceta fvit, et pater tvo redolvit bacarvm sambvcvs.
I'll try to upload the Serria image.
Don't remember who made the image orriginaly. Look at the upper left of the main body of the ship for the special part.
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
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[url="http://www.dd.chalmers.se/~gu00mama/"]http://www.dd.chalmers.se/~gu00mama/[/url]
Vir - Are you saying you don't trust me anymore? I made your favourite, Spoo.
Londo - I'll order in.
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
What I mean is: if I were to watch that episode and pause it at that moment, would I see the word 'Sierra' on the TV?
Either way, it's cool! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
Cherio.
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Catapvltam habeo. Nisi pecvniam omnem mihi dabis, ad capvt tvvm saxvm immane mittam.
Mater tva criceta fvit, et pater tvo redolvit bacarvm sambvcvs.
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
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"Ambassador we all know that the first casulty of war is the truth."
-John Sheridan