This is the ISA..... (John J Sheridan)

Comments

• David of Mac Elite Ranger Ca

  November 2001

  That's nice. Very nice. My recommendation is to pump out a few pics with just plane gray (or red, or blue, or pink with yellow polka-dots) textures so we can get a bit of a feel for it.
  
  Also, I think that the [i]John J.[/i] should be the class ship. My vote for the second prototype goes to the [i]Marcus Cole.[/i] Sure, he's not technicaly dead, but he's a lot closer to being dead then any of the other people on your list!
  
  Also, my recomendation would be either to texture it with [i]Excalibur[/i] style hexagon armor, or White Star wavey armor. I'd create the White Star armor in the same way that's discribed in the Betterspace White Star tutorial in the texturing section.
  
  I'm expecting some major free time to arrive in about a month, so if you need anybody, I'd love to help with a White Star style texture.
  
  [This message has been edited by David of Mac (edited 11-25-2001).]
• David of Mac Elite Ranger Ca

  November 2001

  Also, all the great prefixs in history have been three letters. If I'm not mistaken, the ISA boils it's down just like Starfleet does. Ergo:
  [b]U[/b]nited Federation of Planets [b]S[/b]tar[b]S[/b]hip = U.S.S.
  
  [b]I[/b]nterSteller [b]A[/b]lliance of Worlds [b]S[/b]hip = I.A.S.
  
  The point? It would flow better as [i]I.A.S. John J. Sheridan[/i], same as [i]U.S.S. Enterprise[/i] is better than [i]U.F.P.S.S. Enterprise[/i].
• Sanfam I like clocks.

  November 2001

  Incorrect. I'm positive there are name prefixes with either more or less than three characters. It's just that United States Ship, Her Magesty's Ship, Royal Mail Ship (I believe. Hamblin, correct me.), and others all can be shortened to three. Technically, trek should have the ships as SS for Starfleet Ship, or UFPS for United Federation of Planets Ship. Babylon 5 has EAS, short for Earth Alliance Ship, and I forget what S:AAB had, but that was four characters.
• Eternity Elite Ranger

  November 2001

  Well I'm going to throw some VCD hexagadional textures on her this afternoon and post the piccys tonight. I was also thinking Vorlon organic David of Mac - but again it needs to be made (Scurries off to check out tutorial!) I have got her loaded into blender (- DAM is she BIG!!!) and most of her sorted into approprate colours and names. So she should be easy to do when I start her at around 13:30 hours today.
  
  I think the Hel'Zha has to be next. She heeds a heavy fighter compliment after all to make up for the lack of the VCD main gun!
  
  BTW is B5mg still offline?
  
  
  Later! I got to go to the library to return oferdue library books! (Shows how much time has been spent on her!)
  
  URGENT!
  And the URL for the Whitestar organic armour tutorial is located at.....
  
  [This message has been edited by Eternity (edited 11-26-2001).]
• David of Mac Elite Ranger Ca

  November 2001

  Here. [url="http://www.ap3d.com/ws/ws_tutorial_06.htm"]http://www.ap3d.com/ws/ws_tutorial_06.htm[/url]
• Eternity Elite Ranger

  November 2001

  AAAAAAlllllllllllllll righty then! Here is the latest run of piccys. All textures by Thomas Banner - from his VCD mesh. er A few bits are going to be altered before release, yes I saw a few flaws! hehe.
  [url="http://server3001.freeyellow.com/vertigo1-2/Eternity/John_J_Sheridan_1.jpg"]http://server3001.freeyellow.com/vertigo1-2/Eternity/John_J_Sheridan_1.jpg[/url]
  [url="http://server3001.freeyellow.com/vertigo1-2/Eternity/John_J_Sheridan_2.jpg"]http://server3001.freeyellow.com/vertigo1-2/Eternity/John_J_Sheridan_2.jpg[/url]
  [url="http://server3001.freeyellow.com/vertigo1-2/Eternity/John_J_Sheridan_3.jpg"]http://server3001.freeyellow.com/vertigo1-2/Eternity/John_J_Sheridan_3.jpg[/url]
  [url="http://server3001.freeyellow.com/vertigo1-2/Eternity/John_J_Sheridan_4.jpg"]http://server3001.freeyellow.com/vertigo1-2/Eternity/John_J_Sheridan_4.jpg[/url]
  
  Comments?
• CAClark Trainee

  November 2001

  Looks pretty good, but I think the wing angles are wrong. The sketch of the ship by the designer looks to me like the should be at 60 degree angles all round.... as you have them looks very odd.
  
  Cheers
  
  Craig
  
  [This message has been edited by CAClark (edited 11-26-2001).]
• LightNZ Ranger

  November 2001

  Yes, the wings need some changing
• Eternity Elite Ranger

  November 2001

  I know. I tried em at 60 degrees as was proper, but I had a small problem. It went along the lines of there was a BIG hole between the wings and hull. I settled at 45 degrees, but as I see more and more errors in the mesh to correct I may rebuild the wingbases.
• Commander Hamblin Ranger

  February 2002

  Ship prefixes (collecting these has become a recent hobby of mine):
  
  USS - United States
  HMS - United Kingdom/Saudi Arabia/Sweden
  TCG - Turkey
  ITS - Italy
  FGS - Germany
  SPS - Spain
  HNLMS - The Netherlands
  HS - Greece
  HMCS - Canada
  HMAS - Australia
  HMNZS - New Zealand
  NRP - Portugal
  HNOMS - Norway
  FS - France
  BNS - Belgium
  HDMS - Denmark
  INS - India
  HIJMS - Japan
  NAel - Brazil (I think)
  LE - Republic of Ireland
  
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  [i]The truth is fluid, the truth is subjective. Out there, it doesn't matter what time it is. In here, it's lunchtime if you and I decide that it is. The truth is sometimes what you believe it to be, and other times what you decide it to be.[/i]
  
  You know what? I decided to get rid of my entire sig, and replace it with this.
  
  JANEWAY RULES!!!!! I LOVE JANEWAY!!!!!!
  
  There. HAR HAR HAR!!!
  
  [i]Disciplined and calm, to await the appearance of disorder and hubbub amongst the enemy:--this is the art of retaining self-possession.[/i] [7:30]
  
  [b]The Principle of Maneuver, Sun Tzu's The Art of War[/b].
• Commander Hamblin Ranger

  February 2002

  WOW! I had no idea my sig was so...um...*lost for words*
  
  Will teach me not to tick THAT box ever again...
• Eternity Elite Ranger

  February 2002

  And during WW2 Germany was KV (Kegsvermarine Vessel) ?SP?
• Commander Hamblin Ranger

  March 2002

  Kriegsmarine, if I'm not mistaken. Basically, my point is, prefixes can be whatever you want them to be. Although the Dutch technically use the prefix "HMS", the rest of the world call 'em "HNLMS", in order that we don't have yet ANOTHER "HMS" in the world, I'd imagine.
  
  They can be as long or as short as you want them to be. You can have a prefix longer than the ship's name if you wish, though depending on how long it is, it'd be an ass to remember. ISAS sounded good.
  
  Also, it's good to have a certain naming scheme, then stick to that, though that's not necessarily something you [i]have[/i] to 100% stick to. The US Navy sometimes deviate from their naming schemes. The [i]Ticonderoga[/i] class Cruisers are all named for battles, except one - USS [i]Thomas S. Gates[/i]. The [i]Los Angeles[/i] class Submarines are all named after cities, except one - USS [i]Hyman G. Rickover[/i], named for the father of US Nuclear powered submarines. Though, she's been decommissioned now, along with many of the Flight I [i]Los Angeles[/i]es.
  
  The Royal Navy, again, deviate from their own naming scheme sometimes. The [i]Broadsword[/i] class Frigates were meant to all be given "B" names. But when HMS [i]Bloodhound[/i] was being constructed, the City of London persuaded the Royal Navy to rename her HMS [i]London[/i]. The previous HMS [i]London[/i] had just recently decommissioned, and the City wished for the Royal Navy to continue having a ship named after the City, in order to honour their great maritime links, or something like that.
  
  After that, the next ship was named HMS [i]Sheffield[/i], to honour the previous ship to bear the name that was lost during the Falklands War, and the same goes for the one after that, HMS [i]Coventry[/i]. After that, I think the Royal Navy took their chance, and instead of going back to the Bs, they went on with C names, with the next four [i]Broadsword[/i] class Frigates being commissioned [i]Cornwall[/i], [i]Campbeltown[/i], [i]Cumberland[/i] and [i]Chatham[/i].
  
  One more example (just to bore you even further). The [i]Invincible[/i] class Aircraft Carriers - the first two were [i]Invincible[/i] and [i]Illustrious[/i]. The third? [i]Ark Royal[/i], for two reasons. Firstly, the third HMS [i]Ark Royal[/i] (this one being the fifth) was a heroic World War II Aircraft Carrier, probably Britain's equivalent to the USS [i]Enterprise[/i]. Except that ours got torpedoed by a U-Boat in the Mediterranean, in 1941. So, it was honouring that name.
  
  Secondly, the fourth HMS [i]Ark Royal[/i] had, at that time, just been the latest casualty in a rapidly declining Defence budget, and an atmosphere of thrift was abound in Whitehall. In order to smooth over public opinion, the latest [i]Invincible[/i] class Aircraft Carrier was named [i]Ark Royal[/i]. So, in a similar way to how there is feeling that there should always be a USS [i]Enterprise[/i] in the US Navy, here in Britain, there's a feeling (by those who care, anyway) that there should always be an HMS [i]Ark Royal[/i].
  
  So, while naming schemes are nice, they don't have to be adhered to completely.
  
  Lastly, if you're naming a ship after a person, they usually do this after they've died, and they're always sponsored by a woman who's somehow associated with either the ship or the ship's namesake. However, there is one exception that I can think of. USS [i]Ronald Reagan[/i], due to commission sometime in 2003. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's not dead yet, right?
• Eternity Elite Ranger

  March 2002

  OK so Drall aint kicked yet - but he is stuck in that machine!