Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
Are they all XXXXL shirts? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img] If they are, they could be hinting that your pants money is going to dissapear soon... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[quote]Originally posted by Drazi Guy:
[b]I am also working on putting together some kind of commemorative picture CD about our efforts, our story, and all of you.That idea's still fuzzy too, and I am waiting to hear back from Rick and Randy about how much of the "full story" we would be allowed to tell...[/b][/quote]
Mmmhh. A picture CD? Do you speak of a "real CD" (e.g. made with Macromedia Director) that has a bit of user interaction etc. (at least a nice menu [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img])?? That would be cool. It shouldn't be a tough problem to produce it because we have all material in electronic form anyway. If you can't find someone to "build" it, then send me an email.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
Interested, yes. But it's just that living in Finland and not having a credit card can have its drawbacks. I'll have another look when the prices are up and the payment system is organized. Any chance for a "I fought for B5:ITF" lenticular mousemat? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
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Life is full of surprises. The ones reserved for me usually come wearing brass knuckles.
[This message has been edited by Data Crystal (edited 06-13-2001).]
I think it's a good idea.
I'd by both the CD and the t-shirt, although I may not wear it. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
Cherio.
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Catapvltam habeo. Nisi pecvniam omnem mihi dabis, ad capvt tvvm saxvm immane mittam.
Mater tva criceta fvit, et pater tvo redolvit bacarvm sambvcvs.
RubberEagleWhat's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
damnit, yes.. i think so.. i thought about making one myself yesterday...
And for the CD: mabe not macromedia (imho it isn't the best way to do such things), some of us might want to save the pics to their HD and and have them as (damnit.. forgot the word...) ... "background"-images on their desktops...
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Born from silence, silence full of it
A perfekt concert my best friend
So much to live for, so much to die for
If only my heart had a home
-Nightwish:Dead boy's Poem-
I would buy some, mind you I would buy just about anything ITF related.
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I have seen the future, and it was dark
and then I took my shades off...
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Only the insane have strength enough to prosper,
Only those that prosper truly judge what is sane.
No multi-color. Too expensive [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img] I was also suggesting that we sell a hat or visor with the S14 logo. It would be a nice little thing. Maybe a keychain, or sticker set?
I happen to like the photo cd idea, too.
About the prices: I might be able to cut down some costs by shipping some from right here. It would not be a bad idea. If anyone has any other suggestions, please, post!
I suppose I'd buy one. Who needs to eat lunch for a couple of days.
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
If you do a sticker set, make sure you include a bumper sticker that says "Never piss off a Vorlon." like one of the devs said. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[quote]Originally posted by Sanfam:
[b]About the prices: I might be able to cut down some costs by shipping some from right here. It would not be a bad idea. If anyone has any other suggestions, please, post![/b][/quote]
The most I'd expect you to pay for shipping is just over $3 per shirt - standard USPS 2nd-day mailing. You can get cheaper than that for standard package rate shipping.
It's the shirts that will cost more than you'd expect to see in stores, especially since I'm guessing it would need to include some profit (since DraziGuy mentioned it would be to pay for FirstOnes hosting bills).
Ignoring the issues of having visitors indirectly pay for a site discussing or based on copyrighted material by buying shirts/caps, I'm wondering how high even a 1-color transfer t-shirt would cost, given material that won't dissolve in the first wash or three, especially with profit and shipping added on to that. I'd be surprised if the total wasn't near $25 per shirt or, at best, $20+.
Good luck, though [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
[quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
[b]JohnD: That's why I said investigate. It may not cost that much more. Sluggy.com sells shirts for $US18 with full colour large pictures. However, they are flat colours and the S14S logo isn't.[/b][/quote]
Full color meaning how many colors? 2? 4?
8? 16?
Plus, you should make sure that the actual material used in the shirt is high enough of a quality and sewn together well enough so that it won't start to fall apart in the first dozen washes, the transfer fade or flake, or the shirt start to pill up or come apart at the seams.
I've seen that happen for some of the cheaper (and $18 is cheaper, when you're dealing with small orders of t-shirts with color transfers like that) shirts, including one I ordered back as an undergrad through our local AIAA chapter. Near-paper-thin material is another stunt pulled by these guys when you see cheap prices.
If you end up paying $20 plus $3 shipping plus a profit for FirstOnes, that will probably hit $25+ unless DraziGuy sets a small profit on the shirts (which probably won't even pay for a week of his hosting bill). That's a hefty bill for a single t-shirt.
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
The image on one of the shirts I have is more than 16 colours (I got bored of counting). They've been making them for a few years now, and switched printing processes after a while because the old process was flaking and stuff. However, they have the advantage of being able to order large numbers because of the large number they sell.
The material on their older shirts is 50% cotton 50% polyester, and feels very comfortable. I've only had the shirt three months so I don't know about wear, but someone I know has one two years old and it still looks good. I also have their most recent shirt, and it is 100% cotton, and feels more comfortable.
I'm not saying that is the way we should do ours, but there is no reason not to find out the cost.
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[This message has been edited by Biggles (edited 06-13-2001).]
I have the S14 logo in full color, as well as 3 black & white (sic.) versions.
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
Personally, I'd go with two colors only, just to make it cheaper:
Dark purple overall, with bright green images and text. I'd suggest a small aardvark siloette on the left breast of the shirt, possibly a pocket, and one of the S14S logos on the back (one of the b&w made into p&g). Either Large over the entire back, or small and just below the neck.
As for the quality, spare no expense. I wnat this thing to last, and definately NO FLAKING! I hate that.
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It's a good thing I do get a few bucks to buy pants with...
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[quote]Originally posted by Drazi Guy:
[b]I am also working on putting together some kind of commemorative picture CD about our efforts, our story, and all of you.That idea's still fuzzy too, and I am waiting to hear back from Rick and Randy about how much of the "full story" we would be allowed to tell...[/b][/quote]
Mmmhh. A picture CD? Do you speak of a "real CD" (e.g. made with Macromedia Director) that has a bit of user interaction etc. (at least a nice menu [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img])?? That would be cool. It shouldn't be a tough problem to produce it because we have all material in electronic form anyway. If you can't find someone to "build" it, then send me an email.
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We are one. No matter the blood, no matter the skin, no matter the world, no matter the star. .. We are one.
No matter the pain, no matter the darkness, no matter the loss, no matter the fear. .. We are one.
- Alliance Preamble to the Declaration of Principles, The Paragon of Animals
Webmaster [url="http://www.Sprungtor.de"]www.Sprungtor.de[/url]
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Life is full of surprises. The ones reserved for me usually come wearing brass knuckles.
[This message has been edited by Data Crystal (edited 06-13-2001).]
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"Laugh? We nearly elected a President!"
I'd by both the CD and the t-shirt, although I may not wear it. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
Cherio.
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Catapvltam habeo. Nisi pecvniam omnem mihi dabis, ad capvt tvvm saxvm immane mittam.
Mater tva criceta fvit, et pater tvo redolvit bacarvm sambvcvs.
Gopher
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Is this it?
Make sure you get different sizes, colors and such...
I'd like a medium myself...
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[i][b][url="http://www.dd.chalmers.se/~gu00mama/"]http://www.dd.chalmers.se/~gu00mama/[/url]
Vir - Are you saying you don't trust me anymore? I made your favourite, Spoo.
Londo - I'll order in.[/b][/i]
And for the CD: mabe not macromedia (imho it isn't the best way to do such things), some of us might want to save the pics to their HD and and have them as (damnit.. forgot the word...) ... "background"-images on their desktops...
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Born from silence, silence full of it
A perfekt concert my best friend
So much to live for, so much to die for
If only my heart had a home
-Nightwish:Dead boy's Poem-
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possibly futile, but very human.
Humm, we need some ideas to raise money, ones that wont get us arrested [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
Although, hey who wants to become international arms dealers?! I hear its still lucrative! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
Anything for the Cause!
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models?
little logo in front(up left u know) and a bigger one behind?.
......mmmmmm.....if there are groups here of people near, well one guy can buy the t-shirts and reduce the shipping costs...
count me in if they´re cool-looking.
btw, what about black shirts w/ S14 Print on the front/left breast and the Into the fire (the one from Marc´s homepage) logo on the back?
madmaniac
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Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done!
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I have seen the future, and it was dark
and then I took my shades off...
--
Only the insane have strength enough to prosper,
Only those that prosper truly judge what is sane.
I happen to like the photo cd idea, too.
About the prices: I might be able to cut down some costs by shipping some from right here. It would not be a bad idea. If anyone has any other suggestions, please, post!
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[b]About the prices: I might be able to cut down some costs by shipping some from right here. It would not be a bad idea. If anyone has any other suggestions, please, post![/b][/quote]
The most I'd expect you to pay for shipping is just over $3 per shirt - standard USPS 2nd-day mailing. You can get cheaper than that for standard package rate shipping.
It's the shirts that will cost more than you'd expect to see in stores, especially since I'm guessing it would need to include some profit (since DraziGuy mentioned it would be to pay for FirstOnes hosting bills).
Ignoring the issues of having visitors indirectly pay for a site discussing or based on copyrighted material by buying shirts/caps, I'm wondering how high even a 1-color transfer t-shirt would cost, given material that won't dissolve in the first wash or three, especially with profit and shipping added on to that. I'd be surprised if the total wasn't near $25 per shirt or, at best, $20+.
Good luck, though [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
[b]JohnD: That's why I said investigate. It may not cost that much more. Sluggy.com sells shirts for $US18 with full colour large pictures. However, they are flat colours and the S14S logo isn't.[/b][/quote]
Full color meaning how many colors? 2? 4?
8? 16?
Plus, you should make sure that the actual material used in the shirt is high enough of a quality and sewn together well enough so that it won't start to fall apart in the first dozen washes, the transfer fade or flake, or the shirt start to pill up or come apart at the seams.
I've seen that happen for some of the cheaper (and $18 is cheaper, when you're dealing with small orders of t-shirts with color transfers like that) shirts, including one I ordered back as an undergrad through our local AIAA chapter. Near-paper-thin material is another stunt pulled by these guys when you see cheap prices.
If you end up paying $20 plus $3 shipping plus a profit for FirstOnes, that will probably hit $25+ unless DraziGuy sets a small profit on the shirts (which probably won't even pay for a week of his hosting bill). That's a hefty bill for a single t-shirt.
The material on their older shirts is 50% cotton 50% polyester, and feels very comfortable. I've only had the shirt three months so I don't know about wear, but someone I know has one two years old and it still looks good. I also have their most recent shirt, and it is 100% cotton, and feels more comfortable.
I'm not saying that is the way we should do ours, but there is no reason not to find out the cost.
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[This message has been edited by Biggles (edited 06-13-2001).]
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
Dark purple overall, with bright green images and text. I'd suggest a small aardvark siloette on the left breast of the shirt, possibly a pocket, and one of the S14S logos on the back (one of the b&w made into p&g). Either Large over the entire back, or small and just below the neck.
As for the quality, spare no expense. I wnat this thing to last, and definately NO FLAKING! I hate that.
I'd buy one.
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"In the Long Twilight Struggle, which lies ahead of us, there is the possibility of hope."
- Draal
Like Rick Said....
[img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img] Never Piss off a Vorlon [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img]
I want that one....It'd go on the Chevy real well.....hehe