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Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
Gah, it's been one of those months so far, First, I go to the doctor for a crapload of arm-pain, and he says "Oh, lets send you to an orthpedist, that'll be $120 please" So i go see the Ortho, who says "Hey, looks like the rest of your Rotator cuff has gone fucko, full thickness tear, YAY, but you don't want surgery yet since it has a recovery time of 9-12 months, so let me jab you in the back with this big assed needle and pump you full of steroids... Thatl'll be $300 please" (140 for the office visit, $33 for the sterioids and get this, $150 for him jabbing me in the back with it)

Then i come down with some sort of sinus infection, which has turned into some sort of bronchitis, going to get pumped full of antibiotics tomorow, that's been going on for about a week now.

And to top it all of.... My fucking PS3 dies... all I need now is for my goldfish to drop dead (i don't actually HAVE a goldfish, so if it does drop dead we are all in trouble)


But on the bright side... the steroid shot did seem to help a lot, and should allow me to put off the surgery till the fall (that'll be $17,000 please)
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  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Inset comment for Universal Healthcare Here.
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    How long until Obamas changes occur (and how much actually do occur)?
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    It wont fully go into effect until 2012-2014
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE=croxis;187980]Inset comment for Universal Healthcare Here.[/QUOTE]

    That would be un-American, you commie!
  • DarthCaligulaDarthCaligula Elite Ranger
    2012? That long? I was wondering when it would go into effect.
  • PSI-KILLERPSI-KILLER Needs help
    don't worry we are all going to live forever now with universal healthcare.
  • CurZCurZ Resident Hippy
    Fuck rotator cuff injuries. One never recovers from such a thing 100%. The worst part is, it takes a tiny amount of work at low intensity to keep the rotator cuff in good condition and prevent injury in the first place, and noone seems to be aware of it.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    [QUOTE=DarthCaligula;187984]2012? That long? I was wondering when it would go into effect.[/QUOTE]

    And why do you think it isn't going into effect till 2012? The world will end, and so his "Changes" will be moot anyway... :D

    Obamanation indeed...

    U.S.S.A. Union of Soviet Socialist Amerika

    Traitor to the Constitution

    but hey... That's just my opinion...

    ;)
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Getting back to the original topic... Been there done that...

    Try $500 a pop for CS injections in the neck x 3, then another 3 knee injections before a $70,000 hit for knee surgery and implant, each instance losing time at work, plus 2 weeks for recovery.

    It's not over either... :s

    [QUOTE=Entil'Zha;187979]Gah, it's been one of those months so far, First, I go to the doctor for a crapload of arm-pain, and he says "Oh, lets send you to an orthpedist, that'll be $120 please" So i go see the Ortho, who says "Hey, looks like the rest of your Rotator cuff has gone fucko, full thickness tear, YAY, but you don't want surgery yet since it has a recovery time of 9-12 months, so let me jab you in the back with this big assed needle and pump you full of steroids... Thatl'll be $300 please" (140 for the office visit, $33 for the sterioids and get this, $150 for him jabbing me in the back with it)

    Then i come down with some sort of sinus infection, which has turned into some sort of bronchitis, going to get pumped full of antibiotics tomorow, that's been going on for about a week now.

    And to top it all of.... My fucking PS3 dies... all I need now is for my goldfish to drop dead (i don't actually HAVE a goldfish, so if it does drop dead we are all in trouble)


    But on the bright side... the steroid shot did seem to help a lot, and should allow me to put off the surgery till the fall (that'll be $17,000 please)[/QUOTE]
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    Yeah the NHS with its free healthcare for all clearly now sounds evil and socialist and against the order of things and...evil...and...whatever :rolleyes:

    I know the NHS isnt perfect, I work in it so I know its flaws...but I really cannot understand how paying $17,000 for surgery and $300 for an injection can be considered any better. Sure you get it quick, but you get completely screwed over in the process. I'd rather wait a few weeks in physical pain than have to fork out that sort of money which even with insurance I wouldnt be able to afford for the next decade
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    I had a friend who had to declare bankruptcy because the cost of cancer treatment was too high. Difficult to hold a job when you live alone and are on chemotherapy.
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    *shakes head* So right to life is fine as long as you can afford it? It shouldnt be like that
  • DarthCaligulaDarthCaligula Elite Ranger
    You commies sucking on the goverment teat, which is supplied by MY HARD EARNED MONEY! You should be ashamed! Go get a job you bums! NO MORE TAXES!!! LONG LIVE CAPITALIZM!!
  • PSI-KILLERPSI-KILLER Needs help
    finnally I can get that 10 foot penis i always wanted. Thanks guys.
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    [QUOTE=ShadowDancer;187991]Yeah the NHS with its free healthcare for all clearly now sounds evil and socialist and against the order of things and...evil...and...whatever :rolleyes:

    I know the NHS isnt perfect, I work in it so I know its flaws...but I really cannot understand how paying $17,000 for surgery and $300 for an injection can be considered any better. Sure you get it quick, but you get completely screwed over in the process. I'd rather wait a few weeks in physical pain than have to fork out that sort of money which even with insurance I wouldnt be able to afford for the next decade[/QUOTE]

    Oh, NHS isn't even close to what we're getting. We're not even getting a single-payer, government-run insurance company paying private hospitals and doctors. We're not even getting an [i]option[/i] for a government-run insurance company to compete with the private insurance outfits. What we're getting is a ban on denying coverage on account of preexisting conditions, and a corresponding tax incentive to ensure everyone who can purchases insurance (because otherwise, people could cheat the system by only buying health insurance when they got sick, since it'd now be illegal to tell anyone who did that to take a hike).

    So, that's it. That's Evil Zombie Lenin's plot to destroy America: Hand the [i]private insurance companies[/i] 32 million new customers and pathetically little incentive to actually improve their service. It should tell you everything you need to know about the health insurance industry's motivations that they fought tooth and nail against this bill when pretty much the only thing in it that went against them was removing their ability to arbitrarily deny coverage to people who had been paying them premiums for years.

    Oh, and the final plan, as passed, is pretty much the same as the Republican counter-proposal to Bill Clinton's proposed health care reforms in 1994. Great to know that the End of America isn't going to come about because of what's actually done, but rather who are the ones that are doing it.
  • CurZCurZ Resident Hippy
    Interesting how the US has trillions to spend on increasing suffering, but none to spend on alleviating it, least of all at home.
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    Aaannnddd, to expand on David's point, this bill does zero to manage the single complaint that is universal, the cost of health care. Matter of fact, it it very likely to cause the opposite effect, as it will encourage a whole group of people who essentially self-limited their health care to attempt to access more services. This is in a system that is already seeing significant shortages of qualified personnel in many areas (nurses, general practitioners).

    This was not a health care bill, it was a health insurance bill.

    Jake
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    You have a weird society
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    no, we have a crappy government.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Who doesn't?
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    exactly my point... we're no weired than anyone else...

    :D
  • Lord RefaLord Refa Creepy, but in a good way
    Ants!
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    Sorry no replies, Things went south after i saw the doctor and i've been in bed for the past 3 days with some of the nastiest crap ever, on antibiotics for the next week or so, and inhalable steroids for at least the next month.

    JackN, Believe me i know all about that too, when i had my arm surgery the total cost was around $50k thank god i had Insurance at the time.

    As for universal healthcare, I have no problem paying for my own, as long as its AFFORDABLE! the one part of Obama's plan that i want in effect NOW, is not being able to be denied for a pre-existing condition. (although even though they will have to cover you for a pre-existing, there is nothing that says they can't charge you one bajillion times more for your premium if you have one)
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    I think there's a word for excessive pricing...
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    there is a phrase for excessive pricing, "Standard Operating Procedure"
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Maybe in the US; it isn't in NZ and doesn't appear to be in Japan, either.
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    Same in Sweden. Were also insured against ever paying more than $100 for medical bills during one year. If it exceeds that, the state pays for it..
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    Must be nice....
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    You apparently have no idea. ;)

    I don't really understand why a public health system is against the US constitution, as a lot of people there claimed it is during all the debates. If someone could explain it to me, that would be nice...
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    The 10th amendment to the constitution:
    [quote]The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.[/quote]

    This is one of the big supports for "state rights." However very few people actually care about state rights and only cite it if it furthers their actual agenda (anti-healthcare, legalize marijuana, etc)
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