The article states that both the UK and Canadian schedules are unaffected. They will show all the episodes. I'm hoping that if ABC stops airing it maybe Sci-Fy (oh excuse me [I]SyFi[/I]) will pick it up for Season 2.
Episode 9... we now know what Beta looks like, [sp]a blob of yellow light of something "fractal,"[/sp] where it was found and what the actual mission of the Antares crew is.
The show was finally picking up steam... I really don't understand why they stopped airing it now.
I'm now caught up with this rather interesting show. I'll post a more detailed analysis up at some point in the future, but I had to chime in with my remarks about the latest episode pair. The beta reveal was fantastic. I has been woorried the writers were going to drag the surface mystery on well until the close of the Aries, but instead we've been given a brand new goal to look forward to. I'm quite interested in learning more of it's motivations and wish to see so much more religious and philosophical analysis. The story offers too much to turn these options down. I also loved seeing thecharacters suddenly shift when they each seemed to understand even the smallest glimmer of their grand purpose for being on the mission, as well as those left even further in the dark being without whatever they previously had.
Episode 11... the "Centauri Embassor" is claustrophobic (the German dominatrix (isn't that redundant?) might be as well)... this is getting better by the episode. :D
It's easy to be agnostic or atheistic when you have your feet firm on the ground, but once you sit in that rocket/spaceship, all bets are off. Whatever keeps you on the right path in your head is ok in my book. :D
So what would you say if you'd be the first one to set foot on a planet?
Episode 12... is a bit confusing, as they are alternating between flashbacks and the present, you don't always quite get when you are in the story. Not that it's important... it's just about sex or lack thereof and relationships, but mostly sex. :D
The more I watch it, the less I think this show is (was?) meant to be seen by the male demographic. I don't have a problem with that, but this would explain why it appears less and less appealing to me as I watch it. The main problem I have with this show is that with all the things we know now, it's still pretty much going nowhere fast. The mission is secondary. It's all about sex. And I thought men were obsessed. :D
I still don't care what these Beta things are or do. It's like someone said, let's do a show about an unlikely crew flying through the solar system and everyone cheered and had a few more drinks and went home. Not a clue as to how to flesh it out to make it more interesting besides on the emotional level. Yeah, we'll cross that bridge when we get there... damn those flat digital displays look great and yeah, we wanna see more of those shiny astronaut locker rooms.
The true high point of this episode was the actual landing on Venus and everything afterwards. More of this would have been right up my alley. Too bad.
One more episode to go... and we can stick a fork in it... at least for those who are still watching. All I can say is, you can have all the means to do a great show and still crash and burn.
I'm going to disagree with those remarks, Stingray, and say that overall, I'm fairly pleased with it. The show doesn't need to be all action-adventure to be interesting. Sure, sex is playing a large role in the advancement of the plot, but the specific relationships in focus have been there since the pilot. Everything has naturally grown a greater range of depth.
I like how they're not just leaping into the greater story, as space is frickin' huge and a journey like this honestly has little going on between points A and B. Things, in the mean time, will happen naturally among the crew between destinations.
What I want to see more of is prodding from the journalist, the return of the rabbit, and some additional development of the faith vs. reason threads they've planted.
Also, you mentioned how emotional and dramatic everyone was in the episodes prior. Well, they did just have their world view shattered, discover the existence of alien life, and realize they were actually on this mission exclusively to serve some greater purpose (whether they acknowledge it or not). That's a lot to take in, and their reactions seemed to be perfectly within reason.
[QUOTE=Sanfam;184842]The show doesn't need to be all action-adventure to be interesting.[/QUOTE]
Well, all I can say the show got "canned" for a reason.
As I've mentioned, they most likely targeted [I]Defying Gravity[/I] towards a specific (female) audience which didn't tune in (yeah, it's probably yet another thing about space cowboys). IMHO those emotional aspects weren't enough to keep the viewers interested. They did a lot of things right, but it lacked the action. Space is made of 99% boredom and 1% panic. The problem is, that doesn't make much for an entertaining program and filling it with daytime soap isn't what I'm looking for, I don't watch that stuff.
[QUOTE]What I want to see more of is prodding from the journalist, the return of the rabbit, and some additional development of the faith vs. reason threads they've planted. [/QUOTE]
Actually I didn't, as this has been done better elsewhere, well, maybe not about a wabbit. :D
[QUOTE]Also, you mentioned how emotional and dramatic everyone was in the episodes prior. Well, they did just have their world view shattered, discover the existence of alien life, and realize they were actually on this mission exclusively to serve some greater purpose (whether they acknowledge it or not). That's a lot to take in, and their reactions seemed to be perfectly within reason.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was just overacting... but I guess we all have different emotional thresholds. :D
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
Now now, Sanfam. You're ruining Stingray's negativity parade.
[QUOTE=Stingray;184846]Well, all I can say the show got "canned" for a reason. [/QUOTE]
I suppose Firefly, Titus, Wonderfalls, and Futurama all had reasons for being cancelled, too.
All signs are pointing to the fear of US networks to revert to traditional Scifi concepts of aliens and spacey stuff. The same thing just happened with the V remake that hasn't even aired yet. The network, after greenlighting the show and producing half a season, has halted development with all signs pointing to a panic-reaction to the concept of Aliens playing a critical role in a story.
[QUOTE=Sanfam;184853]I suppose Firefly, Titus, Wonderfalls, and Futurama all had reasons for being cancelled, too.
All signs are pointing to the fear of US networks to revert to traditional Scifi concepts of aliens and spacey stuff. The same thing just happened with the V remake that hasn't even aired yet. The network, after greenlighting the show and producing half a season, has halted development with all signs pointing to a panic-reaction to the concept of Aliens playing a critical role in a story.[/QUOTE]Well look at BSG. A drama in space was fine, but at the first sign of anything alien, Olmos would have walked out.
The closest the networks are going to get are shows like The Big Bang Theory. Didn't you know all science fiction fans are class-A asshats like that cast? If you don't know what I'm talking about, that's fine; I can only usually stand fifteen minutes of that show at a time before I want to punch the screen. But it's an interesting watch at least once so you get a feel for what the networks think of the science fiction demographic.
And having now seen the season finale, I have to say that this truly was one of the best shows on TV. The only thing I can effectively compare this to in impact and overall impression is Space: Above and Beyond. While S:AAB never managed to truly feel as "real" as it could have been, it hooked me with deep character development, strong writing and a dark background plot that was just on the brink of being revealed. What we have here is essentially that same core concept, but slightly further developed. We've moved past the big reveal into virgin territory only to find it even more enticing than I could have ever imagined!
I was genuinely concerned for the characters, even though I so strongly suspected they'd make it out alive. The drama was tangible. Great writing, great acting, fantastic direction and superb balance of production values and effort. Bravo.
So what does that tell us about TV networks? Or their viewers?
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
It says that the TV networks are only interested in lowest-common-denominator stuff that they don't have to market, and it says that viewers don't all trawl through the TV listings every day to see what's on and won't sit in front of the TV for 24 hours to see if a programme they've never heard of is both on and good.
I feel this is worth following up this long-since inactive thread. Last year, a writer over at CliqueClack managed to talk to the show's creator, James Pariott, regarding the fate of the show's story lines. Due to some potential for the show to return from cancellation, significant details about the show's conclusion were spared.
Well...it's dead. But this meant that the follow-up could make its way out!
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"The same way we do it every weekend, Pinky." :D
That's what I meant. Typo on the "i".
The show was finally picking up steam... I really don't understand why they stopped airing it now.
Geez, so much emotional baggage, there are like 10 people crammed into every single character.
Never has space been so... so depressing.
If this were a real space program, they'd never get off the launch pad due to all that cheese.
It's easy to be agnostic or atheistic when you have your feet firm on the ground, but once you sit in that rocket/spaceship, all bets are off. Whatever keeps you on the right path in your head is ok in my book. :D
So what would you say if you'd be the first one to set foot on a planet?
The more I watch it, the less I think this show is (was?) meant to be seen by the male demographic. I don't have a problem with that, but this would explain why it appears less and less appealing to me as I watch it. The main problem I have with this show is that with all the things we know now, it's still pretty much going nowhere fast. The mission is secondary. It's all about sex. And I thought men were obsessed. :D
I still don't care what these Beta things are or do. It's like someone said, let's do a show about an unlikely crew flying through the solar system and everyone cheered and had a few more drinks and went home. Not a clue as to how to flesh it out to make it more interesting besides on the emotional level. Yeah, we'll cross that bridge when we get there... damn those flat digital displays look great and yeah, we wanna see more of those shiny astronaut locker rooms.
The true high point of this episode was the actual landing on Venus and everything afterwards. More of this would have been right up my alley. Too bad.
One more episode to go... and we can stick a fork in it... at least for those who are still watching. All I can say is, you can have all the means to do a great show and still crash and burn.
I like how they're not just leaping into the greater story, as space is frickin' huge and a journey like this honestly has little going on between points A and B. Things, in the mean time, will happen naturally among the crew between destinations.
What I want to see more of is prodding from the journalist, the return of the rabbit, and some additional development of the faith vs. reason threads they've planted.
Also, you mentioned how emotional and dramatic everyone was in the episodes prior. Well, they did just have their world view shattered, discover the existence of alien life, and realize they were actually on this mission exclusively to serve some greater purpose (whether they acknowledge it or not). That's a lot to take in, and their reactions seemed to be perfectly within reason.
Well, all I can say the show got "canned" for a reason.
As I've mentioned, they most likely targeted [I]Defying Gravity[/I] towards a specific (female) audience which didn't tune in (yeah, it's probably yet another thing about space cowboys). IMHO those emotional aspects weren't enough to keep the viewers interested. They did a lot of things right, but it lacked the action. Space is made of 99% boredom and 1% panic. The problem is, that doesn't make much for an entertaining program and filling it with daytime soap isn't what I'm looking for, I don't watch that stuff.
[QUOTE]What I want to see more of is prodding from the journalist, the return of the rabbit, and some additional development of the faith vs. reason threads they've planted. [/QUOTE]
Actually I didn't, as this has been done better elsewhere, well, maybe not about a wabbit. :D
[QUOTE]Also, you mentioned how emotional and dramatic everyone was in the episodes prior. Well, they did just have their world view shattered, discover the existence of alien life, and realize they were actually on this mission exclusively to serve some greater purpose (whether they acknowledge it or not). That's a lot to take in, and their reactions seemed to be perfectly within reason.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was just overacting... but I guess we all have different emotional thresholds. :D
But wait there is more... I shall tell you what I think about [I]BSG: The Plan[/I] very shortly. :D
I suppose Firefly, Titus, Wonderfalls, and Futurama all had reasons for being cancelled, too.
All signs are pointing to the fear of US networks to revert to traditional Scifi concepts of aliens and spacey stuff. The same thing just happened with the V remake that hasn't even aired yet. The network, after greenlighting the show and producing half a season, has halted development with all signs pointing to a panic-reaction to the concept of Aliens playing a critical role in a story.
All signs are pointing to the fear of US networks to revert to traditional Scifi concepts of aliens and spacey stuff. The same thing just happened with the V remake that hasn't even aired yet. The network, after greenlighting the show and producing half a season, has halted development with all signs pointing to a panic-reaction to the concept of Aliens playing a critical role in a story.[/QUOTE]Well look at BSG. A drama in space was fine, but at the first sign of anything alien, Olmos would have walked out.
The closest the networks are going to get are shows like The Big Bang Theory. Didn't you know all science fiction fans are class-A asshats like that cast? If you don't know what I'm talking about, that's fine; I can only usually stand fifteen minutes of that show at a time before I want to punch the screen. But it's an interesting watch at least once so you get a feel for what the networks think of the science fiction demographic.
Maybe we're not big enough sci-fi fans to be offended by it? I don't know.
Oddly enough, the true cliffhanger was in episode 12, so the last episode connects most if not all loose ends.
I was genuinely concerned for the characters, even though I so strongly suspected they'd make it out alive. The drama was tangible. Great writing, great acting, fantastic direction and superb balance of production values and effort. Bravo.
Sucks that it's gone forever.
Well...it's dead. But this meant that the follow-up could make its way out!
[url=http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2009/10/29/how-defying-gravity-would-have-progressed-straight-from-the-creator/]Part One[/url]
[url=http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2010/10/28/how-defying-gravity-would-have-ended-the-final-chapter/]Part Two[/url]