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The fifth season started today. Haven't seen it yet but thought I should start a thread.
I was worried that not remembering how the last season ended would be a problem, then realised that given how little the show makes sense, it wouldn't really matter.
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I was worried that not remembering how the last season ended would be a problem, then realised that given how little the show makes sense, it wouldn't really matter.
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I was right. The very first episode (zero) of season 5 is a recap... they are actually spelling it all out for us.
So no need to watch season 4 again to keep watching.
Looks like this season is going to be all about getting back to the island.
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There are quite a few things I don't get. How did Ben get off the island and how he plans to get back since it apparently keeps jumping through time? Also, how did Locke die and get off the island? :D
[SPOILER] I totally said 'WTF' out loud when I found out that Charles Widmore was on the island. I think that Ms. Hawking (data's mother actress) is totally Faraday's mother. I was also a bit disappointed at the end of Desmond ass-kicking of Charles Widmore, I thought he could have at least told him his daughter was ok. I think he should have dug the knife in a bit further and said "yeah, her and her son are fine" haha.
I thought it was interesting to notice that the "Oceanic Six" were not featured in this episode at all. Wonder if they are going to stay on the island for a while or jump back and forth.
Peter and I were talking about how Daniel Faraday's parents could be Charles Widmore AND Ellie (girl who point the gun at him near "Jughead") and how Widmore's presence on the island gives him a reason to get back there in the first place.
Peter is speculating that maybe Charles Widmore wasn't supposed to leave the island either and that's where a lot of the problems started.
I have been speculating on where they buried "Jughead"- the hatch? the orchid station? And the cold place where Ben turns the wheel, was that there before or after the bomb or before or after Dharma? I think I need to watch the premiere again and rewatch that conversation between Dr. Dharama guy (who appears on all the training vids) and the guy who is digging stuff, I think that holds more than we bargained for.
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We'll need all the help we can to get this one. I'm still not sure how those time travels work with respect to the plot. This Richard character knows beforehand that Locke will travel back in time to meet him and he knows that he won't recognize Locke. So those travels don't seem random at all.
I also don't understand what those time jumps have to do with the moving of the island. It's all a big mess as far as I can tell.
[URL="http://www.doctorwhogear.co.uk/images/CutOutDoctor.jpg"]This guy![/URL] :D
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This show actually requires you to take notes, if you want to have a chance at understanding what is going on.
And I know, I should watch everything over again and take notes haha.
When I downloaded this one, it said in the comments "best episode of the series" .. I don't believe so. And they better get back to the island soon, I can't take a whole season of this.
At this point it's really hard to tell who's dead and who's alive. How much time has passed since the Oceanic Six returned back to civilization and how time progressed for the people left back on the island, who keep hiking through the jungle while jumping back and forth through time, all the while collectively bleeding out of their noses.
I'm not even going to try and figure this out. I'm just going to hold onto my seat belt until this rollercoaster comes to a complete stop. This show keeps raising more questions than it answers but still I want to know what it's all about. :D
The only problem I have with that explanation is, why have they not experienced those flashes (indicating time jumps) between the time of the crash and the time when we saw Ben turn the, for lack of a better term, "wheel of time?"
The Dharma Initiative seems to have studied this time bubble phenomenon... and while they can't say for sure where the island is in the present, they can approximate where it will be in the future.
Why Locke had to die and take Jake's father's place in the coffin to recreate the initial situation on the plane when the show started doesn't make much sense either. Because both Locke and Jake's father's remains were on the plane, so who's taking Locke's place? Also, why do you need a plane to get to the island, but not off? As far as I remember, Ben was shown in some land-locked desert in the Middle-East or something when he got off the island.
This episode raises more questions than it answers... as usual. Move along, there's nothing to see. :D
Another thing I've noticed, not only does the island jump through time, but the people as we have seen also jumped to different instants in time on the island. So basically, things are more messed up than they first appeared. So, [I]when you see me next time, I won't recognize you[/I]... but how did he (Richard Alpert) know that beforehand? :D I need to get an Aspirine to take care of that sudden splitting headache.
Why they didn't notice it before? Because there was nothing wrong with the island before, now there is and its unstable.
Ben was highly amusing as well.
Jack: What happens to the rest of these people?
Ben: Who cares?
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Frank: "Wait a second... we are not going to Guam, are we?"
That's the kind of humor I want to see more of. ;)
Someone at work suggested that they have all died in the initial crash and that the island is actually hell... so far that theory is just as good as any, as I can't really make heads nor tails of this story. Since the shows are sharing actors, maybe we'll see Cylons or Walter walk on the island soon too. :D
And Richard is an alien and I'm wanting to say Goa'uld...
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James La Fleur... LOL, IIRC, Sawyer called Richard, Mr. Eyeliner. :D
All this episode shows that this Dharma Initiative project has been going on for quite some time, even before Ben got there as a boy.
Sawyer: "How are you doing Sayid?"
Sayid: "A twelve year old Benjamin Linus just brought me a chicken sandwich. How do you think I'm doing?"
I feel like I'm watching a show that makes no sense whatsoever... maybe someone's trying to tell me to do something else with my time. :D
If anyone's still watching, Spoiler: Sayid shot Ben as a kid back in 1977... I'm curious to see what effect that is going to have on what we've seen thus far.