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How are we supposed to get off this rock...

...if we keep failing to excite people about what's out there?!

You read the headline: [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/ap_on_sc/sci_new_planets"]"First fuzzy photos of planets outside solar system"[/URL] and you think, awesome!! But then you click on the image and all you see is [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Hubble-Telescope-NASA/photo//081113/480/cdb035b52b5b413a80da4d10bb811841//s:/ap/20081113/ap_on_sc/sci_new_planets;_ylt=Ak9F7x9XA5FkZ2tRvMAmVIFxieAA#photoViewer=/081113/480/cdb035b52b5b413a80da4d10bb811841"]this poor excuse for an image of a planet.[/URL] And you don't get to see a planet, but something else (the remnants of a supernova?). Then you think to yourself, this can't be it, so you click on the next image and then you get to see this laughable attempt at a picture of an extra-solar planet. And NO, it's not the bright dot at the center, that's the star of the system.

So basically, all this build-up for TWO BRIGHT RED PIXELS taken two years apart??? That's it? You've got to be kidding me!!!!

Anyway... how is science supposed to get us anywhere if we can't get people to become excited about science? All we have is consumers who drool over next year's gadget, the [I]iBong![/I]

I really hope the next 4 years will be better in that respect, I really do.

That is all, please, carry on.

Comments

  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    That's interesting, because when I read the article the image showed [URL="http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/fed/images/Borgsphere_slide1.jpg"]this[/URL].
  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    Thats no planet.

    It's [URL="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/photomoore13s/TheEyeOfSauron_800.jpg"]this[/URL].

    Worf
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    :D
  • JohnnyOnTheSpotJohnnyOnTheSpot Banned by request
    Dude mars 2020 its real man!
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    Stingray: You provided your own answer. If you want pretty pictures of extrasolar planets with current technology, go watch a movie. Any person with a real scientific bent [i]is[/i] excited about these pictures (I know I am). For anyone who doesn't get excited about them, there's not much we can do.
  • HuntSmackerHuntSmacker Firstones Ambassador to Starcraftia
    Well, aren't that 'super advanced' telescopes going up in 2025? The ones which will be able to look directly at extra-solar planets?
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE=Biggles;177054]Any person with a real scientific bent [i]is[/i] excited about these pictures (I know I am).[/QUOTE]

    You must be talking about those [I]real[/I] scientists that get the standard and metric systems all mixed up, right? :D

    [QUOTE]For anyone who doesn't get excited about them, there's not much we can do.[/QUOTE]

    I disagree. I'm sure there are high resolution images of this discovery and all the press does in this case is distribute some thumbnail to the public.
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    You wont get higher resolution, only bigger pictures Im afraid.
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    Yet again, I disagree, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fomalhaut_with_Disk_Ring_and_extrasolar_planet_b.jpg"]the Fomalhaut Wikipedia page[/URL] has a better picture up. I admit, I must get a better source for my science news. :D

    Look at the bigger picture, they must be working with higher resolution images or how are they going to notice a difference in all that mess? Unless they work in a different region of the light spectrum, I guess. IIRC, the Hubble uses different methods of looking at the stars.

    Looks really cool though. :)
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE=Stingray;177065]You must be talking about those [I]real[/I] scientists that get the standard and metric systems all mixed up, right? :D[/quote]

    Because that's relevant.

    [quote]I disagree. I'm sure there are high resolution images of this discovery and all the press does in this case is distribute some thumbnail to the public.[/QUOTE]

    In the full-res picture the planet is still only a few pixels, which is what you appeared to be complaining about. Yahoo! News! rarely puts up big pictures on their site of anything, not just scientific images, while many other news sites provide links to higher resolutions.

    The thing you have to remember is that these news organisations are commercial entities, and as such will cater to what they perceive as their target demographic. Yahoo News isn't a scientific magazine, and they have no mandate to make people excited about science. Trying to force one on them, as much as I think it would bring a benefit, would not be the right approach.
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    Now we just need to capture the Fomalhaut Jump Accelerator and we're in business!
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    Don't mind me, I just post here. :D
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I think I misunderstood what you were complaining about. My apologies. Anyway, the problem is not the media. The place to make people excited about science is at school.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Amen on that.

    Besides, we arn't going to get high resolution images of any extra solar planet.

    Considering this is one of the best images taken of [URL="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/10/12/sharpest-image-of-pluto-ever-taken/"]pluto[/URL], and that is in our own solar system, I find it AMAZING that we have any images of extrasolar planets at all.
  • JackNJackN <font color=#99FF99>Lightwave Alien</font>
    Looking at the Fomalhaut dust disc and pixelated planet in that image is still a tremendous acheivement. You have to really grasp the idea of how hard it is to see just that stuff with a big mass of nuclear fire glowing in your way.

    I look at the hi res image and just slightly blur my eyes a tad, and I get a good indication of what it looks like. BTW, that planet must be one big sucka! :)

    Moving at a pretty good clip for that kind of arc over 2 years. ;)
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    That's why I was shocked to learn it takes roughly 800 years for Fomalhaut B to orbit its star. So in that box shot you see the distance traveled by that planet in the time period of a couple years.

    I suppose a lot of discoveries are made by comparing before and after shots. That's quite a simple, yet effective way of exploring the universe.

    What's a bit disconcerting is that asteroids are often discovered that way as well, especially those tumbling our way.
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    Well if they hit us, they do, and if they dont, they dont. ;)
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE=Biggles;177099]I think I misunderstood what you were complaining about. My apologies. Anyway, the problem is not the media.[/QUOTE]

    Much ado about nothing. It's just that in all that media noise the really cool stuff gets lost. The media doesn't discriminate, everything is important. :D

    [QUOTE]The place to make people excited about science is at school.[/QUOTE]

    That alone is a whole discussion onto itself.

    I think shows like [I]Mythbusters[/I] do a pretty good job at flexing anyone's cerebral muscle who harbors the slightest bit of curiosity. While the show lacks the academic part, as in a complete (boring) lecture, it shows many examples of how the scientific method helps in setting up experiments or predicting the outcome even though theory and practice can differ widely.

    Edutainment is probably the right term and channels like Discovery and others can help. Shows like MacGyver on the other hand.... :D
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