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The first shot of the new Entrprise?

croxiscroxis I am the walrus
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  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    not entirely sure why there's a question mark in your title. It is indeed a shot from the new movie

    Though I'm a bit sad they felt the need to so drastically re-invent the nacelles (and likely the engineering section, too). Sure, it's not much to work from and I do quite like chances to gain a fresh perspective upon the classics, but they always run the risk of losing the timeless appeal of the original. Matt Jeffries' original design is the iconic starship, ranking up there with such creations as the Millennium Falcon and the Death Star of Star Wars fame.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    I've heard rumours there was a serious redesign. There will be a teaser trailer in the preview for cloaverfield and will be released online on the 21st. Hopefully we will get a better view then
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    You know, they should paint the new Enterprise black, so they can use it again in the next Batman movie. :D
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    Rumors are apparently correct. The downside is that those very lucky few who have been allowed to see it have not been left with the most positive things to say. Spoiler: It's supposed to be "far more organic" and while it doesn't have "wings," it has accentuated curves much like a certain fan-made model (the link to which I cannot find right now but was mentioned on trekmovie.com)
  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    I'm not a fan of those nacelles either. I don't have a problem with updating the design a bit, but you need to keep the spirit of it, and those organic swooshes... well.. bleh

    Though i'll reserve my final judgement until i've seen the rest of the ship.
    At least it seems they haven't messed up the saucer
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    I love seeing the inside of the ramscoops, but... why did they have to make the nacelles look like a cross between Alien and The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
  • RubberEagleRubberEagle What's a rubber eagle used for, anyway?
    After looking at it again, i have to revise my opinion of the nacelles.
    I think those "swooshes" are not a major redesign, just an update of the stuff that was on the original nacelles...
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    I'm fully expecting this to be another bad Trek movie I'm afraid. Enterprise should have shown them that prequels dont work, and if they really needed evidence then they only had to look at the Star Wars prequels
  • PSI-KILLERPSI-KILLER Needs help
    Will we see Christoper Pike as Captain?
  • Random ChaosRandom Chaos Actually Carefully-selected Order in disguise
    [quote=ShadowDancer;169136]I'm fully expecting this to be another bad Trek movie I'm afraid. Enterprise should have shown them that prequels dont work, and if they really needed evidence then they only had to look at the Star Wars prequels[/quote]

    Funny thing is I have almost never seen a literary prequel that did work. I've read many books where the authors go back and give background info from the past in a prequel. In all but one case, they have been horrible. I think it is just the nature of the beast: you already have the future, so whatever you do in the past, you cannot break the future stories, and thus you are trapped into a relatively boring story line with a huge number of restrictions.
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    Now that you mention it, I cant really think of any literature prequels of any worth/significance either. The only thing that springs to mind it Enders Game/Enders Shadow, but thats not really a prequel, just an alternate viewpoint.
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    Robert Jordan did it with New Spring for the Wheel of Time. :D

    edit, ok, now seen the whole ship...

    frankly, the new design works. It's not so different from the original as to make one cringe, and having a little more metal on the warp drive just makes SENSE. Exploring the unknown, you really want the most dangerous part of your ship unprotected?

    [url]http://www.austiart.com/austiart/misc/46154d1200609192-star-trek-xi-now-photos-new-enterprise-ent_05_07_006.jpg[/url]
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    The warp nacelles aren't particularly dangerous. They're just big metal coils surrounded by plasma. Break them open and the plasma leaks out, sure. But you don't get a warp core breach that way.
  • MessiahMessiah Failed Experiment
    Watcha talkin about bub? Those are clearly the insides of the front part of the nacelles, Enterprise is being constructed, and those swirly things are visible through the red see through thingy on the original nacelles too.
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    seems like they should be pretty nice of an explosion if they go boom boom....

    I'd like it that way anyhow. Something akin to a small nuke going off.

    A great way to end the movie me thinks

    "Whoops, kirk and crew died on their first mission!"
    :D
  • WORFWORF The Burninator
    What Messiah said. Next people will be saying the holes in the hull are part of the redesign :p

    Another rare case of prequels working well: In the Beginning.

    Worf
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    [QUOTE=A2597;169141]edit, ok, now seen the whole ship...

    [url]http://www.austiart.com/austiart/misc/46154d1200609192-star-trek-xi-now-photos-new-enterprise-ent_05_07_006.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]

    That's not the movie model. That's [url=http://trekmovie.com/2007/12/04/gabe-kroener-concept-mistaken-for-leaked-enterprise/]Gabriel Koerner's model,[/url] the fan-made one that Sanfam mentioned earlier as being quite similar to the way the movie model turned out.

    [url=http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/]Here are more renderings of Gabe's model.[/url]
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    there we go. And it really does bear some shocking similarities to what little we see of the ship right now. I wonder how the rest of the reveal will pan out. Overall, I don't think Koerner's model is anything less than superb, but that is largely due to the care that went into it. The familial traits all the way up through the galaxy class are more pronounced and in that sense, it fits better into the grander scale of continuity. But if he touches the Constitution-refit, heads will roll. :p

    Regarding the movie model, I do have a feeling that we've lost the deflector dish as it was in TOS, but we'll have to see where that goes. It's far too ancient a device to be kept around on what appears to be a more streamlined ship.

    [QUOTE=Random Chaos;169139]Funny thing is I have almost never seen a literary prequel that did work. I've read many books where the authors go back and give background info from the past in a prequel. In all but one case, they have been horrible. I think it is just the nature of the beast: you already have the future, so whatever you do in the past, you cannot break the future stories, and thus you are trapped into a relatively boring story line with a huge number of restrictions.[/QUOTE]

    The upside of this movie is that they aren't going to be forcing themselves to stick to canon. Canon is a secondary concern, as it is a semi-reboot which they hope will allow for a fresh start back in a divergent trek universe. Sort of like what Enterprise became, but without the awful writing (we hope) or the weak attempt to stick with continuity. I suspect this was the best decision they could possibly have made, as the trek universe really began to suffer from its own weight after the middle of voyager. Without extremely careful writers, the fans of the series (and to a lesser extent, casual viewers) feel neglected and bail on the show, but the larger problem was that the universe had just become so unnecessarily overcomplicated that only a few writers were truly up to the task. A reboot/partial reboot opens the doors for fresh writers with new styles and removes the [B]necessity[/B] of greater historic continuity but allows the option of including it if the information would benefit the story.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Sanfam stole what I was going to say =p

    One of the factors that made In the Beginning work was that it was already "written" when the series began. The majority of prequel stories are often just an outline that someone tries to flesh out into a story with character development and conflict which may not necessary be possible.
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    [QUOTE=Sanfam;169147]The familial traits all the way up through the galaxy class are more pronounced and in that sense, it fits better into the grander scale of continuity. But if he touches the Constitution-refit, heads will roll. :p[/QUOTE]

    Actually, the caption in the Ships Of The Line book explained the image as one of many artists' conceptions of possibilities for the redesign of the Enterprise. So, in a way... ;)
  • A2597A2597 Fanboy
    yea, knew that was gabes model, however the guys at Scifi-meshes are getting pretty certain that it is indeed his model that is being used for the movie.
  • ShadowDancerShadowDancer When I say, "Why aye, gadgie," in my heart I say, "Och aye, laddie." London, UK
    If they touch the Connie-refit I will join you in cutting off the heads of those responsible. I think the Constitution-refit it possibly the most beautiful ship in sci-fi ever
  • DarthCaligulaDarthCaligula Elite Ranger
    So it's actually a redo, and not supposed to take place before TOS? That makes me feel better. I wouldn't mind a redo of Star Trek, as long as it keeps the spirit of the universe.
    And I also thought that Gabe model was really cool.
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    [QUOTE=A2597;169150]yea, knew that was gabes model, however the guys at Scifi-meshes are getting pretty certain that it is indeed his model that is being used for the movie.[/QUOTE]

    It doesn't look like it to me. The bridge is totally different, and Gabe's doesn't have that middle blob between the bridge and the saucer-proper.
  • Entil'ZhaEntil'Zha I see famous people
    Sanfam, See i had heard that they WERE worried about Cannon, and thats why Shatner was not going to be in it, as all the stuff with Lenoard Nimoy playing Spock, would be from the future/present not in the timeline of the film, and at the time we see Spock, Kirk is already dead.

    course that could just be spin and a convienient way to ditch Shatner..
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    Anyway, I hope this movie will do for Star Trek what Casino Royale did for the James Bond franchise.

    I'm still a bit worried about the cast, as I have no idea how the actors will portray their characters. I hope they won't try to emulate the original crew. Daniel Craig didn't try to emulate any of the previous Bonds, and he made a better Bond for it.
  • SeafroggysSeafroggys Ranger
    ^^^ Analogy doesn't work, because all the Bonds had different personalities to begin with.
  • PSI-KILLERPSI-KILLER Needs help
    Will Cpt. Archer be an old man in this?
  • StingrayStingray Elite Ranger
    [QUOTE=Seafroggys;169158]^^^ Analogy doesn't work, because all the Bonds had different personalities to begin with.[/QUOTE]

    Hey, get off my analogy! It's mine, ok, I don't need you to go anal on my analogies. :D

    Go get your own analogies! :p :D

    EDIT: And if you believe Daniel Craig played Bond like Pierce Brosnan or Timothy Dalton, then you need to go watch Casino Royale again.
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [QUOTE=Messiah;169143]Watcha talkin about bub? Those are clearly the insides of the front part of the nacelles, Enterprise is being constructed, and those swirly things are visible through the red see through thingy on the original nacelles too.[/QUOTE]

    Those "swirly things" are the ramscoops. Which I, personally, love being able to see the inside of so clearly. As I think I said. It's what's behind them that's changed.

    [QUOTE=Stingray;169157]Anyway, I hope this movie will do for Star Trek what Casino Royale did for the James Bond franchise.[/QUOTE]

    That would rock. Casino Royale was a great movie. :)
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