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[B]Elizabeth Edwards vs. Ann Coulter [/B]
[B]Posted: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:02 PM by Sam Go
[URL="http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/category/1121.aspx"]Hardball Highlights[/URL] ****** [URL="http://forums.firstones.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=2154"]Sam Go[/URL] -->[/B]
[B]By Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro
NBC News[/B]
The wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards called into MSNBC’s “Hardball” on Tuesday to confront Ann Coulter on her personal attacks on her husband and family.
Coulter, the controversial conservative commentator, appeared on an outdoor set with host Chris Matthews -- and also with dozens of supporters and detractors waiting to ask questions. But there was another person waiting to pose a question to Coulter: Elizabeth Edwards.
According to an Edwards campaign aide, Elizabeth Edwards wanted to call into the show when she heard that Coulter would be taking questions, and she called a Hardball producer to get the phone number needed to dial into the show. The result is the exchange below [URL="http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=d8a300dc-d991-49dc-9728-b619a4a110f2&f=00&fg=copy"](click here to watch the video)[/URL]:[INDENT] [B]Chris Matthews:[/B] You know who's on the line? Somebody to respond to what you said Edwards yesterday morning -- Elizabeth Edwards. She wanted to call in today we said she could. Elizabeth Edwards go on the line you're on the line with Ann Coulter
[B]Elizabeth Edwards:[/B] Hello, Chris.
[B]Matthews:[/B] You wanna say something directly to the person who's with me?
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm calling you … in the South when someone does something that displeases us, we wanna ask them politely to stop doing it. Uh - I'd like to ask Ann Coulter -- if she wants to debate on issues, on positions -- we certainly disagree with nearly everything she said on your show today -- but uh it's quite another matter for these personal attacks that the things she has said over the years not just about John but about other candidates. It lowers our political dialogue precisely at the time that we need to raise it. So I want to use the opportunity … to ask her politely stop the personal attacks.
[B]Ann Coulter: [/B]OK, so I made a joke -- let's see six months ago -- and as you point out they've been raising money off of it for six months since then.
[B]Matthews:[/B] This is yesterday morning, what you said about him.
[B]Coulter:[/B] I didn't say anything about him actually either time.
[B]Edwards:[/B] Ann, you know that's not true. And once more its been going on for sometime.
[B]Coulter:[/B] I don't mind you trying to raise money. I mean it's better this than giving $50,000 speeches to the poor.
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm asking you.
[B]Coulter:[/B] Just to use my name on the Web pages…
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm asking you politely…
[B]Coulter:[/B] … but as for a debate with me, um yeah, sure. Yeah, we'll have a debate
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm asking you politely to stop personal attacks.
[B]Coulter:[/B] How bout you stop raising money on the Web page then?
[B]Edwards:[/B] It didn't start it did not...
[B]Coulter:[/B] No you don't have cause I don't mind
[B]Edwards:[/B] It did not start with that you had a column a number of years ago
[B]Coulter:[/B] OK, great the wife of a presidential candidate is calling in asking me to stop speaking...
[B]Matthews:[/B] Let her finish the point...
[B]Coulter:[/B] You're asking me to stop speaking, stop writing columns, stop writing your books.
[B]Matthews:[/B] OK, Ann. Please.
[B]Coulter:[/B] OK
[B]Edwards:[/B] You wrote a column a couple years ago which made fun of the moment of Charlie Dean's death, and suggested that my husband had a bumper sticker on the back of his car that said ask me about my dead son. This is not legitimate political dialogue.
[B]Coulter:[/B] That's now three years ago --
[B]Edwards:[/B] It debases political dialogue. It drives people away from the process. We can't have a debate about issues if you're using this kind of language.
[B]Coulter:[/B] Yeah why isn't John Edwards making this call?
[B]Matthews:[/B] Well do you want to respond and we'll end this conversation?
[B]Edwards:[/B] I haven't talked to John about this call.
[B]Coulter:[/B] This is just another attempt for –
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm making this call as a mother. I'm the mother of that boy who died. My children participate -- these young people behind you are the age of my children. You're asking them to participate in a dialogue that's based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues and I don't think that's serving them or this country very well.
[I] [Applause from the crowd][/I]
[B]Matthews: [/B]Thank you very much Elizabeth Edwards. (Turning to Coulter) Do you want to -- you have all the time in the world to respond.
[B]Coulter:[/B] I think we heard all we need to hear. The wife of a presidential candidate is asking me to stop speaking. No.
[/INDENT][I]Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro cover politics for NBC News. What did you think of this exchange? [URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19445182"]Vote here[/URL] and weigh in below.[/I][/quote]
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[B]Elizabeth Edwards vs. Ann Coulter [/B]
[B]Posted: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:02 PM by Sam Go
[URL="http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/category/1121.aspx"]Hardball Highlights[/URL] ****** [URL="http://forums.firstones.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=2154"]Sam Go[/URL] -->[/B]
[B]By Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro
NBC News[/B]
The wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards called into MSNBC’s “Hardball” on Tuesday to confront Ann Coulter on her personal attacks on her husband and family.
Coulter, the controversial conservative commentator, appeared on an outdoor set with host Chris Matthews -- and also with dozens of supporters and detractors waiting to ask questions. But there was another person waiting to pose a question to Coulter: Elizabeth Edwards.
According to an Edwards campaign aide, Elizabeth Edwards wanted to call into the show when she heard that Coulter would be taking questions, and she called a Hardball producer to get the phone number needed to dial into the show. The result is the exchange below [URL="http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=d8a300dc-d991-49dc-9728-b619a4a110f2&f=00&fg=copy"](click here to watch the video)[/URL]:[INDENT] [B]Chris Matthews:[/B] You know who's on the line? Somebody to respond to what you said Edwards yesterday morning -- Elizabeth Edwards. She wanted to call in today we said she could. Elizabeth Edwards go on the line you're on the line with Ann Coulter
[B]Elizabeth Edwards:[/B] Hello, Chris.
[B]Matthews:[/B] You wanna say something directly to the person who's with me?
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm calling you … in the South when someone does something that displeases us, we wanna ask them politely to stop doing it. Uh - I'd like to ask Ann Coulter -- if she wants to debate on issues, on positions -- we certainly disagree with nearly everything she said on your show today -- but uh it's quite another matter for these personal attacks that the things she has said over the years not just about John but about other candidates. It lowers our political dialogue precisely at the time that we need to raise it. So I want to use the opportunity … to ask her politely stop the personal attacks.
[B]Ann Coulter: [/B]OK, so I made a joke -- let's see six months ago -- and as you point out they've been raising money off of it for six months since then.
[B]Matthews:[/B] This is yesterday morning, what you said about him.
[B]Coulter:[/B] I didn't say anything about him actually either time.
[B]Edwards:[/B] Ann, you know that's not true. And once more its been going on for sometime.
[B]Coulter:[/B] I don't mind you trying to raise money. I mean it's better this than giving $50,000 speeches to the poor.
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm asking you.
[B]Coulter:[/B] Just to use my name on the Web pages…
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm asking you politely…
[B]Coulter:[/B] … but as for a debate with me, um yeah, sure. Yeah, we'll have a debate
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm asking you politely to stop personal attacks.
[B]Coulter:[/B] How bout you stop raising money on the Web page then?
[B]Edwards:[/B] It didn't start it did not...
[B]Coulter:[/B] No you don't have cause I don't mind
[B]Edwards:[/B] It did not start with that you had a column a number of years ago
[B]Coulter:[/B] OK, great the wife of a presidential candidate is calling in asking me to stop speaking...
[B]Matthews:[/B] Let her finish the point...
[B]Coulter:[/B] You're asking me to stop speaking, stop writing columns, stop writing your books.
[B]Matthews:[/B] OK, Ann. Please.
[B]Coulter:[/B] OK
[B]Edwards:[/B] You wrote a column a couple years ago which made fun of the moment of Charlie Dean's death, and suggested that my husband had a bumper sticker on the back of his car that said ask me about my dead son. This is not legitimate political dialogue.
[B]Coulter:[/B] That's now three years ago --
[B]Edwards:[/B] It debases political dialogue. It drives people away from the process. We can't have a debate about issues if you're using this kind of language.
[B]Coulter:[/B] Yeah why isn't John Edwards making this call?
[B]Matthews:[/B] Well do you want to respond and we'll end this conversation?
[B]Edwards:[/B] I haven't talked to John about this call.
[B]Coulter:[/B] This is just another attempt for –
[B]Edwards:[/B] I'm making this call as a mother. I'm the mother of that boy who died. My children participate -- these young people behind you are the age of my children. You're asking them to participate in a dialogue that's based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues and I don't think that's serving them or this country very well.
[I] [Applause from the crowd][/I]
[B]Matthews: [/B]Thank you very much Elizabeth Edwards. (Turning to Coulter) Do you want to -- you have all the time in the world to respond.
[B]Coulter:[/B] I think we heard all we need to hear. The wife of a presidential candidate is asking me to stop speaking. No.
[/INDENT][I]Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro cover politics for NBC News. What did you think of this exchange? [URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19445182"]Vote here[/URL] and weigh in below.[/I][/quote]
Comments
Is anyone else surprised no one has taken a shot at this person yet?
I think the most irritating thing about her is the airtime she gets in the "mainstream" media... and that's only because she's attractive. Otherwise, she'd be relegated to talk radio with Rush Limbaugh.
I could not for the life of me imagine what Paris Hilton would look like :alien:
Oh, and for that manner, imagine what I would look like :D :D
Its fantastic that he says that hes taking a quote out of context when a minute ago he did the same thing..
(Of course I'm speaking about Ann)
I am tired of them all and yearn for someone who actually is willing a analize and speak in a balanced manner on the issue. Tony Snow was one of the few that was this way before he was picked to be the Whitehouse press secretary.
Jake
Yet Ann ( Coulter ) did win the crack whore act alike contest.
I completely agree. But she is tall, blonde, and thin, all of which are traits that are glamorized on television. Therefore, I think it is part of the reason she gets put on these shows.
The other reason is she is SO inflammatory that the anchors, producers, and executives are just waiting for her to say something provocative on their show and/or network in order to boost ratings. Moreover, Coulter is happy to oblige because she knows it will help her sell books. By the way, her latest book just went to paperback. Coincidence? :rolleyes:
I am tired of them all and yearn for someone who actually is willing a analize and speak in a balanced manner on the issue. Tony Snow was one of the few that was this way before he was picked to be the Whitehouse press secretary.
Jake[/QUOTE]
Hey Jake
Try Obermann (Countdown) on MSNBC on TV (usually the first half an hour of his show is good) or Thom Hartmann (Air America radio) on the radio (interesting and different. Linky. [url]http://www.thomhartmann.com/[/url]) or Ed Shultz (his tag line is: Beer drinking, Meat eating, Gun toting lefty. linky [url]http://www.wegoted.com/[/url]).
There is always NPR too. Le Show
Linky [url]http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/ls[/url]
is one of my favorites with Harry Shearer of Spinal Tap and Simpsons fame.
Yes! they are progressive. But I don't feel like my IQ goes into minus numbers when I watch or listen to them. I don't agree with them some the time but frankly, they are the best of a bad lot. Coming from another country and being exposed to RTE (Irish TV) and the BBC my interests in news are not diverted, so much, by the Paris Hiltons and Ann Coulters of the world (its fun though:)).
I understand, that over here, its about eyes on the TV screen and less about substance. Brain candy good!! but much lower doses please!!!!
The filtering process MacNews/News takes a while to learn.
Then there is always the Daily Show and Colbert Report :D (Tivo, Goooood!!)
As for Elizabeth Edwards, its refreshing to see a real human being getting involved with the political "debate" without spin master/mistress interference. (I hope)
This real !!!!! An American newsreader refuses to lead with Paris Hilton story:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAcU3HSMKPU[/url]
YOU GO GIRL !!!!!!!
OMG I hate Bill O'Reilly and all his ilk. Hurrah for Jesse sticking up for himself and doing his damndest to explain the truth with idiots on both sides.
And bravo Mika! That was cool.
Refa: I do actually possess the Paris Hilton sex tape, so you could pretend you're doing her. ;)
A bit bland and short all in all.
Still worth a whack or two if one gets in the mood tho.