Oh yeah, I guess I forgot that you mentioned that you had already read the Centauri books.
There are some problems in the Technomage books, but I can look past them since I think the books themselves are just so good.
1) 2261 the year between wars. Shadow war over Clark still president.
2) Raiders, and with a mother ship at that?
3) Alexander doing a payed scan gets a headache. Hears in her head 'wating ... long time' She senses a ship in hyper space. She leaves the job a bit early but finished. As Alexander leaves Ivonava finds a ship, 1/2 mile across with added ominous music, in hyper space drifting off the signal.
4) The jump gate struts are moved wider apart to let in the 'ghost ship'.
Looks like the same footage used before. Both to let a large ship in and to stop the jump gate from working.
5) 'League of Non Alined Worlds' term used. Season 4. ;)
6) Allen considers the 'ghost ship' a threat to station security.
7) A bot is sent to get a sample of the 'ghost ship'. The bot looses energy over a few moments.
8) IPX pops in. It calls itself a multi world corporation and able to get around the blockade on B5.
9) Alexander wrights 'there is danger' all over the wall in here room.
10) Business overrules politics for IPX.
11) A sample from the 'ghost ship' says it is over one million years old.
12) Power fluctuations all over B5. Allen makes a pass at Alexander. She is out of it, mouth moving no words coming out.
13) Bots seemingly on there own go to the 'ghost ship', now called an artifact, in formation. Starfuries shoot them 'down'.
14) Security go to a door were a man is down. (it wasn't made plain were they were going, had to watch it to understand what was happening. It was quick so the confusion was short lived. Nearly over before confusion happened.) The door won't open so PPGs are used to open it.
That episode were it was explained that PPGs were made NOT to put holes in mettle as it would make an air leak. The good old days when details were minded. :(
Alexander is there and aims a PPG at Allen. she says 'we have to stop it' 'we have to' she then passes out.
At medbay she recalls nothing sense yesterday afternoon.
Franklin says Teeps are prone to eccentric dream behavior. Something new for this movie? At least it fits. Was it in one of the books?
Alexander says it makes her nervous, It seems familiar. Not the nervous part.
15) IPX Lady gives Alexander's trip to Vorlon space her being able to do more then the P5 rating she has. IPX has a tab on Alexander.
IPX Lady thinks Alexander may try to destroy the artifact and not know it.
16) We can see blue lights running around the artifact. Can't they?
17) A twitching human. Sleeping with bad dreams?
18) Artifact not a ship. IPX Lady thinks it is a jump gate.
19) Ten fights in twelve hours. Artifact responsible?
20) Ivonava wakes gets up from bed. Walks through a door, her uniform suddenly on her. She is there with Vir who says it is beautiful. Ivonava ask what it is, Vir says don't ask questions like that.
A worm thing behind Ivonava, she screams then wakes.
21) A bunch of people gather around an IPX Man who is eating. They tell him he isn't going fast enough.
22) 30% increase in violence sense 'it' arrived.
23) A man wanted to go for a walk outside, in space.
The criminal 'Duce!'
He says 'we belong to them'
24) Someone shot out the power connections on the artifact.
25) IPX Lady says that no one knows who built the first jump gate.
26) Vir had the same dream Ivonava had but it kept going after after Ivonava woke, she was eaten.
27) IPX made an energy cell, fixed it to the artifact. It starts to glow blue in large places intensely.
28) B5 has a 15% loss in power. Many people acting strange.
29) IPX Lady shoots, kills IPX Man.
30) Starfuries to shoot artifact.
31) Wight Eyed Alexander says 'we tried to stop it, to worn you' She says 'this is a memory... something the Vorlons put into her. This is there greatest mistake.
Vorlons came to others as beings of light, seen as gods. It went to there heads.
They wanted to touch the face of god, the 'Well of Souls' (same religion as the Minbari have?)
They made the artifact, the Gate. They never considered what they could let in.
Jump to ships coming through the artifact-gate jump back.
They were a hunger, a power anti-life. Teeps all.
They created an army from us and for them. They are older then the Vorlons.
The Vorlons fought them back. Disabled the artifact.
Vorlons controlled by them hid it in hyper space.
Does that mean the beings controlled now will be part of the anti-life army?
For it to work there must be a gate opened on both sides. Hummmmm.
Alexander then puts 'learning' directly into Sheridan's head.
32) Minbari ships show up, Wightstars on there way.
33) Sheridan sneaks into the artifact through a weakening in shielding. There seems to be a maintenance port in the solid part. He plants a nuke.
34) Something big is coming through the artifact.
35) Some scary monster tries to get Sheridan as he makes his way out.
The artifact gate is destroyed. Fighting stops.
36) IPX Lady turns over all the information she has on the artifact gate.
Sheridan holds back some of the story. Tells people it was a trap, a Teep device to get them to fight.
What kind of breakthroughs were made from the bits of the artifact?
Back monkey won't let me watch the shows until I post them.
I finished the last book in the Techno-Mage trilogy. Somethings make more sense. I don't think the story really fit with what happened in the shows though. Still these were good books in there own right.
A must read though. Next will be 'The Golden Compass'. :P
2) A symbol found in a wall, They have been through other walls (seemingly breaking through them) none of the other's had adornment. The symbol on one side stands for death on the other side there is a symbol that stands for life. To mean life in death, life eternal.
3) A fancy orb rises from the roof of a building. It starts to pulse as they break through. They seem to be thieves.
4) There leader holds a hand over one of many glowing globes. We hear whispering. (spooky music) One of the people hears a different sound and says they must go now to the skimmers. He thinks that if they take nothing they may be free to go.
All but the boss go. The boss takes a large globe.
Something shoots the party except for the boss who was still in the building on his way out. He sees them get shot.
The security system performed poorly here.
5) Sheridan has left for minbar for his job as president.
6) One of Brother Theo's followers in the background. :)
7) The holo brothel.
8) Garabaldi goes to B5 to meet a researcher Mr. Edgers was paying much bucks to. Garabaldi wants to see if he should keep paying. That man shows up. It is the boss of the 'thieves'. Edgers was paying him 2 million credits a year. Wow. Garabaldi only has two letters on this file 'LE'
The boss, a Dr. Bryson, thinks it stands for 'Life Eternal'
9) An unhappy customer at the holo brothel complains to Lockly. Lockly says there isn't one. She is wrong.
10) Dr Bryson fiddles with the globe. He has a device to see into it. There sold at K-Mart.
11) Allen drops by the brothel, not for it's intended usage, ask the owner to close it and go. The owner says no and that the law and the contract are on his side.
12) Dr Bryson ups the power then a full body 'ghost' like humanoid appears near by.
It says 'they' came for us. Took us. They had no right.It says to let him go back to sleep, to let him die. Bryson says 'then your not dead, your not a recording. a living mind preserved at the moment of death.'
It says 'You don't understand, leave us., it said 'us'!, alone.
It then turns 'monsterly' then goes back into the globe.
Bryson, tired, dozes off at the globe's table. He tapes the globe as he falls asleep. It then rolls into the device that got the 'ghost' out.
13) Allen hears a woman crying. Then spies her in black, totally covered up. She ask for here children. She is also translucent.
She turns into gold light and flies through Allen.
14) The lawyer, the suite.
15) Garabaldi drops by Bryson's to get the notes on what he is paying Bryson to do. Bryson burnt them He then gets philosophical he says he needs to go deeper and listen to 'them'. Tells Garabaldi to keep his money and leave.
Garabaldi goes.
16) Allen thinks his 'ghost' was a creation of the hologram owner.
17) A Soul Hunter ship pops into B5. Garabaldi helps out. The Soul Hunter says he is here to get something stolen from them. His proof is the souls taken from the thieves. Bryson is that thieve they say.
The Soul Hunter says what he took was a whole of a people. They were about to die somehow. A billion souls.
But who has the right to the things in the globe?
18) The souls don't want to go back with the Soul Hunters. They would destroy B5 first.
19) Still no door on the caption's office.
20) Bryson adds more power to the device to communicate with the globe.
21) In the brothel a woman hologram is with a customer. Then a male hologram shows up. She calls him husband. This is not how they normally look she says. The holograms are human. The customer leaves. They change appearance.
22) Ghostly looking things pop out of communication monitor with a large scythe looking thing.A man who was trying to use it dies, lookise like he was scared to death Allen thinks.
Glowing yellow lights charge along power cables.
23) A philosophical discussion on what the Soul Hunters do with the souls.
24) 'Ghosties' find Lockly and the Soul Hunter It does the 'wall bulge trick' then breaks a communication monitor and enters as gold light.
The Soul Hunter calls it 'rage' he is the one it wants.
It goes to attack the Soul Hunter. Lockly runs, pushes the Soul Hunter out of the way. She takes the hit. She is knocked out. She is taken to a med lab. She flat-lines.
She leaves her body and flies through B5 and ends up in the globe. One of the inhabitants looks like Franklin. It isn't. to him she looks like his dead wife.
25) Some of the 'mad ones' lost it after being in the globe for so long. (Lockly was pulled into the globe by them) They tried to take there revenge on the Soul Hunterbut when Lockly got in front of the energy the 'not so mad ones' altered it so she could be brought here.
They have been here for 10,000 years. Every year here were time has no meaning more go over to the 'man ones' Lockly says death would have been better then this. The globe man Lockly is talking to says that is what the 'mad ones' want you to think. That is why we have to stop them. They will do anything to get out of 'this'. He adds that they weren't dieing. The Soul Hunters made a mistake. They weren't dieing they were evolving.
26) Fleet of Soul Hunter ships drop in. All of there ships can attach to and burn into other ships. A soul hunter spokesperson says they don't make mistakes. Lockly tells him that they do.
That species was abandoning there physical bodies The Soul Hunters took them. Vorlons and others did the same thing. The Soul Hunter goes philosophical.
27) The holo brothel owner sees Allen and complains about tricks to get rid of him. He sees the dead man that may have been scared to death, ask if he is dead. He is told yes and they aren't using scare tactics.
28) Light people and one that looks like Lockley go down the hallway to the right.
29) 'For 10,000 years 'we' have been prisoners.' Lockly's holo says to the glowey people. 'We had one dream to strike back at toughs that imprisoned us.'
After the speech Lockly notices they aren't responding or moving any further. It's a distraction. She bombs the holo brothel.
Lockly thinks they will blow up the nuclear reactor.
30) The Soul Hunters will attack if there globe isn't returned in 20 hours.
31) Bryson sitting in a seeming trance in a cylinder of light. Garabaldi tries to talk him out. Garabaldi is attacked.
32) The Soul Hunter on B5 says his group is all wrong.
33) The Soul Hunter is taken into the globe it seems at his request to get proof of the soul hunter's mistake.
The gold light cylinder goes away. The floating globe falls into Bryson's hand. He falls over without dropping the globe.
34) The globe is given to the Soul Hunters The other seems to be dead. The Soul Hunter in the globe sees Lockly in the globe, it isn't her.
35) Bryson will be ok. Garabaldi to go back home.
36 Lockly gets out of legal entanglements with the brothel.
What I got from this movie
A) The Soul Hunters were made to look too dumb.
B) What is the big deal with a holo brothel? There should be one every were.
C) The first time I saw this movie I loved it. Not so much after that, except today. With some editing it could be quit good.
Yeah, I don't care for River of Souls too much. I like some parts of it though, like the parts with the Soul Hunter and Lochley talking about their beliefs. I think it was a good idea, but could have been done better.
[QUOTE=Chaosed;172142] 6) One of Brother Theo's followers in the background. :)
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I'm not sure if you noticed, but you can see the monks in the background every so often after the first episode they are introduced in during the third season.
I have seen them in different episodes. :) It makes the show so much richer.
The Rangers show up before the message for Garabaldi. How many shows are that invested into details.
1) ISN report: Sheridan hasn't been seen for several days.
Ground was broken for a monument for the many who died during the recent Teep crisis.
2) Sheridan and Garabaldi meet up on there way to also meet up with Drake.
There reverse engineering Minbari and Vorlon teck for a new ship.
Something is following Sheridan's Wight Star on full burn.
3) Sheridan's ship is being watched from afar by 'Gayland' who seems not to have had permission.
4) Garabaldi jump into normal space were two prototype destroyers are being built.
5) The garbled message for Sheridan.
6) Darina arrives on B5.
7) Sheridan's night mare. All around a hillock he is standing on fires burn. No life or macheens.
This world was murdered for a test Gayland tells him. Some noise, a ship. The killers checking in on there work. Gayland says they must go. "remember' Gayland says in 'Voice'.
A week wind blows some dirt off some rock, 'Deltkno7' is reviled after the dirt is blown away.
Sheridan wakes.
8) Darina finds then follows marks on the wall. Poking her head through a hole in the floor/sealing she has a dream like Sheridan's.
She sees the hillock, the fires. She says she 'can't be back' Sheridan pops in and says 'Can't you, Aren't you?' She attacks Sheridan who turns out to be an illusion. She passes through the illusion with her attack.
The image then changes to a Drakh. The Drakh holds out a hand and an image of a galaxy forms in it. It closes it's hand and the image crunches.
Gayland pops in behind her and tells her that this isn't her world but shares the same fate as her world.
He tells her to pick the right target when the time comes. There will be only one shot.
She then wakes, in a theve's guild test. A Theif questions her says she is far from home. Her species unknown to them. He ask her why is she here. Her answer is she doesn't know.
9) One of the ships, a prototype, is going to have a weapons test at Sheridan's request.
They shoot a bolder in space. Sheridan says that it wasn't much more then the average Wight Star dose. Now for level II. Mane ready to fire, Sheridan suddenly sees Earth as the target and halts the fireing. OOPS it is no longer there, just the normal target. They fire and the power goes down for about a minuet.
Sheridan turns around to see black robed people around a fire, Two moons in the sky. Someone in the group thinks it is a bad idea that Sheridan is here.
Gayland is in the group he says Sheridan is the best. The black robed people, including Gayland, are Teckno-Mages.
Gayland thinks the Drakh will start a war by attacking Earth as there mad at the Humans for destroying Za'Ha'Dum and helping to get the Shadows to go.
He is to tell no one.
Four faces push out of a standing stone slab. Is this a miscount?
Babylon 5 appears by the two moons. Didn't the planet B5 was in orbit over have two moons?
10) Sheridan gets out of the trance directs them to go to B5.
11) Lockly meets Sheridan when he gets there. Sheridan hands over his drawings of the people from the slab.
Sheridan is being cryptic and not sure of what he is doing and what he wants.
12) First one found, Darina. From Zander prime. Next to the Buffy sector. :P
Zander is a dead world the Shadows destroyed it.
13) got #2, Caption Anderson of the Charon. Who seems to have had a similar dream.
14) Upon seeing Sheridan Darina attacks him. After some talking she joins Sheridan's side.
15) They leave with out the last person showing up. Ok if Sheridan's face was in the faces that pushed out of the slab then there would be four. Ether that or I just counted wrong.
16) Still no door to the captions office I see.
17) Sheridan sneaks away, uses the Charon.
18) Sheridan steals the prototypes. Sheridan captions one, Anderson the other.
19) Deltron7 was recorded as a haven. Now it is dead. It was destroyed the same was as Darina's was. The Shadow death cloud. Deltron7 was outside of the war zone.
A shuttle from each ship goes to the planet were a distress signal is detected.
20) Number three found, dead. A Drazi. He has the distress signal.
21) Sheridan says this happened six years ago. Anderson says it happened over a weak ago only.
The Shadows left 'toys' behind.
22) Darina digs a datacrystal out of the Drazi's sex pouch.
23) Left over Shadow teck has been a problem before.but nothing this major.
24) Drake complains of 'his' ships being taken. Garabaldi recalls Sheridan bringing up Deltron7. He tells Drake then off they go with a Wight Star.
25) The Drazi's data crystal is decoded. The Drazi says the dream told him to go to this place. He recorded the bombing. Followed the machene to 'this' location. He then returned to see it anyone lived. He then waited for the others in his dream to arrive. Did the Drakh find him first?
26) Some ships, of an unknown type to Sheridan and Anderson, show up at Deltron7. They don't seem to recognize Sheridan's ships. They send an audio video message. The face is a Drakh.
Darina says to send a message, thanking them for killing there enemy.
-- A sudden squeal-- It is a powerful message. Sent on a Drakh frequency. The Drakh then attack.
27) Two of the ships go into a 'null field'. Sheridan shoots the mane gun into the 'null field', no power for about 60 seconds. They drift into the 'field. The same location as the Drazi had. It is full of Drakh ships. Anderson thinks of following Sheridan into the 'field.
Sheridan backs out, shooting as he goes, being fired upon. The plan is to jump and hope the Drakh can't.
The Drakh fleet is on the move.
The Drakh mane fleet is on the beacon. Sheridan will go off the beacon to sneak past them to get to Earth first.
Some little Drakh ships explode in the jump point the others don't make it in.
28) Lockly told by Sheridan that in three hours the Drakh will be at Earth. Tell them to call up everything.
29) Garabaldi's commutations officer tells him that someone taped into the main power system to boost a signal.
30) Sheridan calls Garabaldi, warns him Garabaldi is dubious. There was a signal that seemed to tell the Drakh who they were and the timing of the signal sent from Garabaldi's ship PPG reading to shoot noises. Drake sold out to the Drakh. More money. Drake gets overpowered.
31) The Drakh pop in by the moon. The battle for Earth starts.
32) Darina's time to chose the correct target.
33) Sheridan's ship misses the target. Anderson moves to ram it as his gun is out. He rams it and the weapon activates early.
34) The Drakh ships that made it away from the Shadow's planet killer start to drop something into Earth's atmosphere. More ships then the Earth's defenses can destroy before the 'product' can be dropped.
It is a plague. Expected to take around five years before it kills the humans.
35) The Excalibur, one of the prototype ships Sheridan stoled, will search for a cure outside known space. The dock that made The Excalibur was destroyed. In time there will be more for now there is only one.
What I got from this movie
A) Deltron7 was outside the war zone. Conformation that the Shadow war was not galaxy wide.
B) Shadow teck has been a problem before? More pleazzzzz
C) The Drakh had a large armada on the beacon. No one saw it there? At least when the Narn ship was hidden from the Centari there was a planet to hide behind.
4) The jump gate struts are moved wider apart to let in the 'ghost ship'.
Looks like the same footage used before. Both to let a large ship in and to stop the jump gate from working. [/QUOTE]
Actually, I think that's a new scene. They never moved the jump gate arms further out in any of the episodes.
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5) 'League of Non Alined Worlds' term used. Season 4. ;) [/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that they were referred to that still in season 4. I think that it wasn't until the Interstellar Alliance that the League was disbanded.
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12) Power fluctuations all over B5. Allen makes a pass at Alexander. She is out of it, mouth moving no words coming out. [/QUOTE]
I love that scene.
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14) Security go to a door were a man is down. (it wasn't made plain were they were going, had to watch it to understand what was happening. It was quick so the confusion was short lived. Nearly over before confusion happened.) The door won't open so PPGs are used to open it.
That episode were it was explained that PPGs were made NOT to put holes in mettle as it would make an air leak. The good old days when details were minded. :( [/QUOTE]
Actually, they do that at least once in season 4 as well. While the PPG bursts wouldn't punch holes in the metal like bullets, the blasts would be VERY HOT. The idea is that they are melting whatever's holding the door up. When the door falls, you see a lot of smoke coming from it.
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16) We can see blue lights running around the artifact. Can't they? [/QUOTE]
Heh. I wondered the same thing.
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33) Sheridan sneaks into the artifact through a weakening in shielding. There seems to be a maintenance port in the solid part. He plants a nuke. [/QUOTE]
You know, this would have been a perfect oppurtunity to use Epsilon 3. Um, hello? Draal? All of life in the galaxy is at risk and the gateway to that risk is right in front of you, think you could do something? Good old "Not so Great Machine".
A lot of people give this one a hard time ("Turdspace"), but I liked it. I also remember reading something that was hilarious and so true about it. At the end, Sheridan says something like "and no one was hurt". Yeah, no was was hurt, except for all those people that died in the space battle or in the rioting on the station.:p
A Call to Arms is my favorite of the B5 movies.
And they don't call him "Gayland". That's just how Galen is pronounced. I assume that you do realize that he's the same guy from the Technomage books?
I was looking through your other posts for what you said about In the Beginning. I don't have much to add to what Sanfam and the others said, and I agree with it being seen between seasons 4 and 5. I also looked at some of what you said about War Without End, and have this to say (since I dont think I saw anyone else comment on it).
"They left out from the move "The Gathering" Kosh saying ' he's our Valin'"
There's three things to remember about this:
1. The version of The Gathering you saw didn't come out until after the fifth season was going, and that line wasn't in the original at all, so it didn't exist back when this episode was made.
2. It's not made obvious, but Kosh was actually thinking "Entil'zha Valen", he didn't say it out loud.
3. Even if Kosh had said it in that scene, Sinclair couldn't have remembered that, because it was the Minbari assassin in that scene.
5) Ya, I was using that to figure out when the movie was supposed to have taken place. I should have just looked it up on Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5.
14) The whole point of the PPG over a 'slug thrower' is not to put a hole in in the metal as it may cause an air leak. I just find it weak that a weapon that needs not be any stronger then to stop something made of flesh can melt metal.
If there going to have a stronger setting like Star Trek has for there fazer then they should just say so.
33) I hated this the first time I saw it. It has been growing on me. It kind of fits in with the Ranger movie they did.
The people who died were noone after all. *shrug*
Yes DC and it is a combination of not being able to spell very well and being too lazy to get the book and check up on the correct spelling. Nothing more.
Sometimes the back monkey lets me off easy.
He didn't actually say that out loud in that scene, he was thinking it.
>So Kosh recognizes that Sinclair is the same person he knew 1000 years in
>the past as Valen; since Kosh didn't know that this wasn't really Sinclair
>(else why greet him so?) wouldn't this have given Sinclair a dangerous
>foreknowledge?
Internal dialogue...what he was thinking, his reaction.
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And it does seem strange that Kosh and all over Vorlons communicate in musical notes, but then he thinks that name in... um... English? Minbari? But it could also be that if we knew Kosh's true name, we might think the musical notes of his name when we see him if we were used to that name.
[QUOTE=Chaosed;172550] 14) The whole point of the PPG over a 'slug thrower' is not to put a hole in in the metal as it may cause an air leak. I just find it weak that a weapon that needs not be any stronger then to stop something made of flesh can melt metal.
If there going to have a stronger setting like Star Trek has for there fazer then they should just say so.
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Plasma is always hot, it's part of what makes it that phase of matter. I'm not a chemist or something like that, so I'm not an expert, but I do know that plasma is really really hot. I don't know for certain, but from what I've read, it seems that plasma is less likely to punch through metal than a bullet. Anyone else reading this that knows more about this?
Ok then Kosh said it to him self. I'm no longer confused on that point.
I should have that part of my memory removed.
Yes plasma is hot. But if it is so hot as to melt metal then what is the point of using it over a slug thrower?
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_plasma_gun]PPGs[/url] fire plasma, which, while it doesn't have to be hot, typically is for most elements (see [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheated]superheated[/url]). The idea of a PPG is that [i]stray shots[/i] are less likely to penetrate a hull than a stray bullet is, as the plasma will have spread out enough by the time it hits the hull. This means that, at very close range (like being held close to a door lock), it can still melt thinner metals.
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The best of the lot so far. Didn't think it fit with what was in the episode. I'll have to watch that one.
There are some problems in the Technomage books, but I can look past them since I think the books themselves are just so good.
1) 2261 the year between wars. Shadow war over Clark still president.
2) Raiders, and with a mother ship at that?
3) Alexander doing a payed scan gets a headache. Hears in her head 'wating ... long time' She senses a ship in hyper space. She leaves the job a bit early but finished. As Alexander leaves Ivonava finds a ship, 1/2 mile across with added ominous music, in hyper space drifting off the signal.
4) The jump gate struts are moved wider apart to let in the 'ghost ship'.
Looks like the same footage used before. Both to let a large ship in and to stop the jump gate from working.
5) 'League of Non Alined Worlds' term used. Season 4. ;)
6) Allen considers the 'ghost ship' a threat to station security.
7) A bot is sent to get a sample of the 'ghost ship'. The bot looses energy over a few moments.
8) IPX pops in. It calls itself a multi world corporation and able to get around the blockade on B5.
9) Alexander wrights 'there is danger' all over the wall in here room.
10) Business overrules politics for IPX.
11) A sample from the 'ghost ship' says it is over one million years old.
12) Power fluctuations all over B5. Allen makes a pass at Alexander. She is out of it, mouth moving no words coming out.
13) Bots seemingly on there own go to the 'ghost ship', now called an artifact, in formation. Starfuries shoot them 'down'.
14) Security go to a door were a man is down. (it wasn't made plain were they were going, had to watch it to understand what was happening. It was quick so the confusion was short lived. Nearly over before confusion happened.) The door won't open so PPGs are used to open it.
That episode were it was explained that PPGs were made NOT to put holes in mettle as it would make an air leak. The good old days when details were minded. :(
Alexander is there and aims a PPG at Allen. she says 'we have to stop it' 'we have to' she then passes out.
At medbay she recalls nothing sense yesterday afternoon.
Franklin says Teeps are prone to eccentric dream behavior. Something new for this movie? At least it fits. Was it in one of the books?
Alexander says it makes her nervous, It seems familiar. Not the nervous part.
15) IPX Lady gives Alexander's trip to Vorlon space her being able to do more then the P5 rating she has. IPX has a tab on Alexander.
IPX Lady thinks Alexander may try to destroy the artifact and not know it.
16) We can see blue lights running around the artifact. Can't they?
17) A twitching human. Sleeping with bad dreams?
18) Artifact not a ship. IPX Lady thinks it is a jump gate.
19) Ten fights in twelve hours. Artifact responsible?
20) Ivonava wakes gets up from bed. Walks through a door, her uniform suddenly on her. She is there with Vir who says it is beautiful. Ivonava ask what it is, Vir says don't ask questions like that.
A worm thing behind Ivonava, she screams then wakes.
21) A bunch of people gather around an IPX Man who is eating. They tell him he isn't going fast enough.
22) 30% increase in violence sense 'it' arrived.
23) A man wanted to go for a walk outside, in space.
The criminal 'Duce!'
He says 'we belong to them'
24) Someone shot out the power connections on the artifact.
25) IPX Lady says that no one knows who built the first jump gate.
26) Vir had the same dream Ivonava had but it kept going after after Ivonava woke, she was eaten.
27) IPX made an energy cell, fixed it to the artifact. It starts to glow blue in large places intensely.
28) B5 has a 15% loss in power. Many people acting strange.
29) IPX Lady shoots, kills IPX Man.
30) Starfuries to shoot artifact.
31) Wight Eyed Alexander says 'we tried to stop it, to worn you' She says 'this is a memory... something the Vorlons put into her. This is there greatest mistake.
Vorlons came to others as beings of light, seen as gods. It went to there heads.
They wanted to touch the face of god, the 'Well of Souls' (same religion as the Minbari have?)
They made the artifact, the Gate. They never considered what they could let in.
Jump to ships coming through the artifact-gate jump back.
They were a hunger, a power anti-life. Teeps all.
They created an army from us and for them. They are older then the Vorlons.
The Vorlons fought them back. Disabled the artifact.
Vorlons controlled by them hid it in hyper space.
Does that mean the beings controlled now will be part of the anti-life army?
For it to work there must be a gate opened on both sides. Hummmmm.
Alexander then puts 'learning' directly into Sheridan's head.
32) Minbari ships show up, Wightstars on there way.
33) Sheridan sneaks into the artifact through a weakening in shielding. There seems to be a maintenance port in the solid part. He plants a nuke.
34) Something big is coming through the artifact.
35) Some scary monster tries to get Sheridan as he makes his way out.
The artifact gate is destroyed. Fighting stops.
36) IPX Lady turns over all the information she has on the artifact gate.
Sheridan holds back some of the story. Tells people it was a trap, a Teep device to get them to fight.
What kind of breakthroughs were made from the bits of the artifact?
Back monkey won't let me watch the shows until I post them.
A must read though. Next will be 'The Golden Compass'. :P
1) Pans to a city. Nothing moving. Looks dead.
2) A symbol found in a wall, They have been through other walls (seemingly breaking through them) none of the other's had adornment. The symbol on one side stands for death on the other side there is a symbol that stands for life. To mean life in death, life eternal.
3) A fancy orb rises from the roof of a building. It starts to pulse as they break through. They seem to be thieves.
4) There leader holds a hand over one of many glowing globes. We hear whispering. (spooky music) One of the people hears a different sound and says they must go now to the skimmers. He thinks that if they take nothing they may be free to go.
All but the boss go. The boss takes a large globe.
Something shoots the party except for the boss who was still in the building on his way out. He sees them get shot.
The security system performed poorly here.
5) Sheridan has left for minbar for his job as president.
6) One of Brother Theo's followers in the background. :)
7) The holo brothel.
8) Garabaldi goes to B5 to meet a researcher Mr. Edgers was paying much bucks to. Garabaldi wants to see if he should keep paying. That man shows up. It is the boss of the 'thieves'. Edgers was paying him 2 million credits a year. Wow. Garabaldi only has two letters on this file 'LE'
The boss, a Dr. Bryson, thinks it stands for 'Life Eternal'
9) An unhappy customer at the holo brothel complains to Lockly. Lockly says there isn't one. She is wrong.
10) Dr Bryson fiddles with the globe. He has a device to see into it. There sold at K-Mart.
11) Allen drops by the brothel, not for it's intended usage, ask the owner to close it and go. The owner says no and that the law and the contract are on his side.
12) Dr Bryson ups the power then a full body 'ghost' like humanoid appears near by.
It says 'they' came for us. Took us. They had no right.It says to let him go back to sleep, to let him die. Bryson says 'then your not dead, your not a recording. a living mind preserved at the moment of death.'
It says 'You don't understand, leave us., it said 'us'!, alone.
It then turns 'monsterly' then goes back into the globe.
Bryson, tired, dozes off at the globe's table. He tapes the globe as he falls asleep. It then rolls into the device that got the 'ghost' out.
13) Allen hears a woman crying. Then spies her in black, totally covered up. She ask for here children. She is also translucent.
She turns into gold light and flies through Allen.
14) The lawyer, the suite.
15) Garabaldi drops by Bryson's to get the notes on what he is paying Bryson to do. Bryson burnt them He then gets philosophical he says he needs to go deeper and listen to 'them'. Tells Garabaldi to keep his money and leave.
Garabaldi goes.
16) Allen thinks his 'ghost' was a creation of the hologram owner.
17) A Soul Hunter ship pops into B5. Garabaldi helps out. The Soul Hunter says he is here to get something stolen from them. His proof is the souls taken from the thieves. Bryson is that thieve they say.
The Soul Hunter says what he took was a whole of a people. They were about to die somehow. A billion souls.
But who has the right to the things in the globe?
18) The souls don't want to go back with the Soul Hunters. They would destroy B5 first.
19) Still no door on the caption's office.
20) Bryson adds more power to the device to communicate with the globe.
21) In the brothel a woman hologram is with a customer. Then a male hologram shows up. She calls him husband. This is not how they normally look she says. The holograms are human. The customer leaves. They change appearance.
22) Ghostly looking things pop out of communication monitor with a large scythe looking thing.A man who was trying to use it dies, lookise like he was scared to death Allen thinks.
Glowing yellow lights charge along power cables.
23) A philosophical discussion on what the Soul Hunters do with the souls.
24) 'Ghosties' find Lockly and the Soul Hunter It does the 'wall bulge trick' then breaks a communication monitor and enters as gold light.
The Soul Hunter calls it 'rage' he is the one it wants.
It goes to attack the Soul Hunter. Lockly runs, pushes the Soul Hunter out of the way. She takes the hit. She is knocked out. She is taken to a med lab. She flat-lines.
She leaves her body and flies through B5 and ends up in the globe. One of the inhabitants looks like Franklin. It isn't. to him she looks like his dead wife.
25) Some of the 'mad ones' lost it after being in the globe for so long. (Lockly was pulled into the globe by them) They tried to take there revenge on the Soul Hunterbut when Lockly got in front of the energy the 'not so mad ones' altered it so she could be brought here.
They have been here for 10,000 years. Every year here were time has no meaning more go over to the 'man ones' Lockly says death would have been better then this. The globe man Lockly is talking to says that is what the 'mad ones' want you to think. That is why we have to stop them. They will do anything to get out of 'this'. He adds that they weren't dieing. The Soul Hunters made a mistake. They weren't dieing they were evolving.
26) Fleet of Soul Hunter ships drop in. All of there ships can attach to and burn into other ships. A soul hunter spokesperson says they don't make mistakes. Lockly tells him that they do.
That species was abandoning there physical bodies The Soul Hunters took them. Vorlons and others did the same thing. The Soul Hunter goes philosophical.
27) The holo brothel owner sees Allen and complains about tricks to get rid of him. He sees the dead man that may have been scared to death, ask if he is dead. He is told yes and they aren't using scare tactics.
28) Light people and one that looks like Lockley go down the hallway to the right.
29) 'For 10,000 years 'we' have been prisoners.' Lockly's holo says to the glowey people. 'We had one dream to strike back at toughs that imprisoned us.'
After the speech Lockly notices they aren't responding or moving any further. It's a distraction. She bombs the holo brothel.
Lockly thinks they will blow up the nuclear reactor.
30) The Soul Hunters will attack if there globe isn't returned in 20 hours.
31) Bryson sitting in a seeming trance in a cylinder of light. Garabaldi tries to talk him out. Garabaldi is attacked.
32) The Soul Hunter on B5 says his group is all wrong.
33) The Soul Hunter is taken into the globe it seems at his request to get proof of the soul hunter's mistake.
The gold light cylinder goes away. The floating globe falls into Bryson's hand. He falls over without dropping the globe.
34) The globe is given to the Soul Hunters The other seems to be dead. The Soul Hunter in the globe sees Lockly in the globe, it isn't her.
35) Bryson will be ok. Garabaldi to go back home.
36 Lockly gets out of legal entanglements with the brothel.
What I got from this movie
A) The Soul Hunters were made to look too dumb.
B) What is the big deal with a holo brothel? There should be one every were.
C) The first time I saw this movie I loved it. Not so much after that, except today. With some editing it could be quit good.
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I'm not sure if you noticed, but you can see the monks in the background every so often after the first episode they are introduced in during the third season.
The Rangers show up before the message for Garabaldi. How many shows are that invested into details.
1) ISN report: Sheridan hasn't been seen for several days.
Ground was broken for a monument for the many who died during the recent Teep crisis.
2) Sheridan and Garabaldi meet up on there way to also meet up with Drake.
There reverse engineering Minbari and Vorlon teck for a new ship.
Something is following Sheridan's Wight Star on full burn.
3) Sheridan's ship is being watched from afar by 'Gayland' who seems not to have had permission.
4) Garabaldi jump into normal space were two prototype destroyers are being built.
5) The garbled message for Sheridan.
6) Darina arrives on B5.
7) Sheridan's night mare. All around a hillock he is standing on fires burn. No life or macheens.
This world was murdered for a test Gayland tells him. Some noise, a ship. The killers checking in on there work. Gayland says they must go. "remember' Gayland says in 'Voice'.
A week wind blows some dirt off some rock, 'Deltkno7' is reviled after the dirt is blown away.
Sheridan wakes.
8) Darina finds then follows marks on the wall. Poking her head through a hole in the floor/sealing she has a dream like Sheridan's.
She sees the hillock, the fires. She says she 'can't be back' Sheridan pops in and says 'Can't you, Aren't you?' She attacks Sheridan who turns out to be an illusion. She passes through the illusion with her attack.
The image then changes to a Drakh. The Drakh holds out a hand and an image of a galaxy forms in it. It closes it's hand and the image crunches.
Gayland pops in behind her and tells her that this isn't her world but shares the same fate as her world.
He tells her to pick the right target when the time comes. There will be only one shot.
She then wakes, in a theve's guild test. A Theif questions her says she is far from home. Her species unknown to them. He ask her why is she here. Her answer is she doesn't know.
9) One of the ships, a prototype, is going to have a weapons test at Sheridan's request.
They shoot a bolder in space. Sheridan says that it wasn't much more then the average Wight Star dose. Now for level II. Mane ready to fire, Sheridan suddenly sees Earth as the target and halts the fireing. OOPS it is no longer there, just the normal target. They fire and the power goes down for about a minuet.
Sheridan turns around to see black robed people around a fire, Two moons in the sky. Someone in the group thinks it is a bad idea that Sheridan is here.
Gayland is in the group he says Sheridan is the best. The black robed people, including Gayland, are Teckno-Mages.
Gayland thinks the Drakh will start a war by attacking Earth as there mad at the Humans for destroying Za'Ha'Dum and helping to get the Shadows to go.
He is to tell no one.
Four faces push out of a standing stone slab. Is this a miscount?
Babylon 5 appears by the two moons. Didn't the planet B5 was in orbit over have two moons?
10) Sheridan gets out of the trance directs them to go to B5.
11) Lockly meets Sheridan when he gets there. Sheridan hands over his drawings of the people from the slab.
Sheridan is being cryptic and not sure of what he is doing and what he wants.
12) First one found, Darina. From Zander prime. Next to the Buffy sector. :P
Zander is a dead world the Shadows destroyed it.
13) got #2, Caption Anderson of the Charon. Who seems to have had a similar dream.
14) Upon seeing Sheridan Darina attacks him. After some talking she joins Sheridan's side.
15) They leave with out the last person showing up. Ok if Sheridan's face was in the faces that pushed out of the slab then there would be four. Ether that or I just counted wrong.
16) Still no door to the captions office I see.
17) Sheridan sneaks away, uses the Charon.
18) Sheridan steals the prototypes. Sheridan captions one, Anderson the other.
19) Deltron7 was recorded as a haven. Now it is dead. It was destroyed the same was as Darina's was. The Shadow death cloud. Deltron7 was outside of the war zone.
A shuttle from each ship goes to the planet were a distress signal is detected.
20) Number three found, dead. A Drazi. He has the distress signal.
21) Sheridan says this happened six years ago. Anderson says it happened over a weak ago only.
The Shadows left 'toys' behind.
22) Darina digs a datacrystal out of the Drazi's sex pouch.
23) Left over Shadow teck has been a problem before.but nothing this major.
24) Drake complains of 'his' ships being taken. Garabaldi recalls Sheridan bringing up Deltron7. He tells Drake then off they go with a Wight Star.
25) The Drazi's data crystal is decoded. The Drazi says the dream told him to go to this place. He recorded the bombing. Followed the machene to 'this' location. He then returned to see it anyone lived. He then waited for the others in his dream to arrive. Did the Drakh find him first?
26) Some ships, of an unknown type to Sheridan and Anderson, show up at Deltron7. They don't seem to recognize Sheridan's ships. They send an audio video message. The face is a Drakh.
Darina says to send a message, thanking them for killing there enemy.
-- A sudden squeal-- It is a powerful message. Sent on a Drakh frequency. The Drakh then attack.
27) Two of the ships go into a 'null field'. Sheridan shoots the mane gun into the 'null field', no power for about 60 seconds. They drift into the 'field. The same location as the Drazi had. It is full of Drakh ships. Anderson thinks of following Sheridan into the 'field.
Sheridan backs out, shooting as he goes, being fired upon. The plan is to jump and hope the Drakh can't.
The Drakh fleet is on the move.
The Drakh mane fleet is on the beacon. Sheridan will go off the beacon to sneak past them to get to Earth first.
Some little Drakh ships explode in the jump point the others don't make it in.
28) Lockly told by Sheridan that in three hours the Drakh will be at Earth. Tell them to call up everything.
29) Garabaldi's commutations officer tells him that someone taped into the main power system to boost a signal.
30) Sheridan calls Garabaldi, warns him Garabaldi is dubious. There was a signal that seemed to tell the Drakh who they were and the timing of the signal sent from Garabaldi's ship PPG reading to shoot noises. Drake sold out to the Drakh. More money. Drake gets overpowered.
31) The Drakh pop in by the moon. The battle for Earth starts.
32) Darina's time to chose the correct target.
33) Sheridan's ship misses the target. Anderson moves to ram it as his gun is out. He rams it and the weapon activates early.
34) The Drakh ships that made it away from the Shadow's planet killer start to drop something into Earth's atmosphere. More ships then the Earth's defenses can destroy before the 'product' can be dropped.
It is a plague. Expected to take around five years before it kills the humans.
35) The Excalibur, one of the prototype ships Sheridan stoled, will search for a cure outside known space. The dock that made The Excalibur was destroyed. In time there will be more for now there is only one.
What I got from this movie
A) Deltron7 was outside the war zone. Conformation that the Shadow war was not galaxy wide.
B) Shadow teck has been a problem before? More pleazzzzz
C) The Drakh had a large armada on the beacon. No one saw it there? At least when the Narn ship was hidden from the Centari there was a planet to hide behind.
This is my favorite movie of the lot.
4) The jump gate struts are moved wider apart to let in the 'ghost ship'.
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Actually, I think that's a new scene. They never moved the jump gate arms further out in any of the episodes.
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5) 'League of Non Alined Worlds' term used. Season 4. ;) [/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that they were referred to that still in season 4. I think that it wasn't until the Interstellar Alliance that the League was disbanded.
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12) Power fluctuations all over B5. Allen makes a pass at Alexander. She is out of it, mouth moving no words coming out. [/QUOTE]
I love that scene.
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14) Security go to a door were a man is down. (it wasn't made plain were they were going, had to watch it to understand what was happening. It was quick so the confusion was short lived. Nearly over before confusion happened.) The door won't open so PPGs are used to open it.
That episode were it was explained that PPGs were made NOT to put holes in mettle as it would make an air leak. The good old days when details were minded. :( [/QUOTE]
Actually, they do that at least once in season 4 as well. While the PPG bursts wouldn't punch holes in the metal like bullets, the blasts would be VERY HOT. The idea is that they are melting whatever's holding the door up. When the door falls, you see a lot of smoke coming from it.
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Heh. I wondered the same thing.
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33) Sheridan sneaks into the artifact through a weakening in shielding. There seems to be a maintenance port in the solid part. He plants a nuke. [/QUOTE]
You know, this would have been a perfect oppurtunity to use Epsilon 3. Um, hello? Draal? All of life in the galaxy is at risk and the gateway to that risk is right in front of you, think you could do something? Good old "Not so Great Machine".
A lot of people give this one a hard time ("Turdspace"), but I liked it. I also remember reading something that was hilarious and so true about it. At the end, Sheridan says something like "and no one was hurt". Yeah, no was was hurt, except for all those people that died in the space battle or in the rioting on the station.:p
And they don't call him "Gayland". That's just how Galen is pronounced. I assume that you do realize that he's the same guy from the Technomage books?
"They left out from the move "The Gathering" Kosh saying ' he's our Valin'"
There's three things to remember about this:
1. The version of The Gathering you saw didn't come out until after the fifth season was going, and that line wasn't in the original at all, so it didn't exist back when this episode was made.
2. It's not made obvious, but Kosh was actually thinking "Entil'zha Valen", he didn't say it out loud.
3. Even if Kosh had said it in that scene, Sinclair couldn't have remembered that, because it was the Minbari assassin in that scene.
14) The whole point of the PPG over a 'slug thrower' is not to put a hole in in the metal as it may cause an air leak. I just find it weak that a weapon that needs not be any stronger then to stop something made of flesh can melt metal.
If there going to have a stronger setting like Star Trek has for there fazer then they should just say so.
33) I hated this the first time I saw it. It has been growing on me. It kind of fits in with the Ranger movie they did.
The people who died were noone after all. *shrug*
Sometimes the back monkey lets me off easy.
If some alien said to me that I was his person who is the figure head of the vastly followed religion I would have reacted.
>So Kosh recognizes that Sinclair is the same person he knew 1000 years in
>the past as Valen; since Kosh didn't know that this wasn't really Sinclair
>(else why greet him so?) wouldn't this have given Sinclair a dangerous
>foreknowledge?
Internal dialogue...what he was thinking, his reaction.
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And it does seem strange that Kosh and all over Vorlons communicate in musical notes, but then he thinks that name in... um... English? Minbari? But it could also be that if we knew Kosh's true name, we might think the musical notes of his name when we see him if we were used to that name.
If there going to have a stronger setting like Star Trek has for there fazer then they should just say so.
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Plasma is always hot, it's part of what makes it that phase of matter. I'm not a chemist or something like that, so I'm not an expert, but I do know that plasma is really really hot. I don't know for certain, but from what I've read, it seems that plasma is less likely to punch through metal than a bullet. Anyone else reading this that knows more about this?
I should have that part of my memory removed.
Yes plasma is hot. But if it is so hot as to melt metal then what is the point of using it over a slug thrower?
I read somewhere a black hole can be made as small as an atom. At least in theory I hope!