Hello, I'm a newbie to the forum but have been trying to read your takes on the episodes---while they are quite funny, those I have been able to decipher, it would make for far easier reading if you would spell check by proof reading your post before sending. Its difficult to follow along when practically evry wrd is msspeeled. Se wot i meen? :) If English is not your first language, please be nice to other readers and find someone to help with spelling. I post on other forums and they do seem to manage to spell things quite well. I noticed a couple times that folks have gently hinted that proper names ie Garibaldi are not spellt Garibauldi.
When people are reading the posts it wastes a lot of time when you have to read it 10 times to figure out what you're trying to say--and as I said earlier, some of your takes are quite good. :cool:
Dralafi I spell check when the words are underlined in red. If other then names and words I can't find the correct spelling for on dictionary.com then perhaps the board's spell check is wrong.
I have found words on Dictionary.com that are underlined here.
Some times I wounder if they are too generous with word spellings.
If I spell a word wrong and it is the spelling for a different word I wont know.
I got sick and couldn't use more then one word in a sentence. three years ago I read my first book in 15ish years. The first Harry Potter book.
1) G'Kar gets his prosthetic eye. It also works when removed. Franklin advises him to shut it off when removed.
2) Delenn to go to Minbar without telling Sheridan why.
3) Delenn to go to the 'Dreaming' to see if there is a reason she should marry Sheridan.
Her clan has decided against it but are willing to be persuaded to allow the marriage.
4) In the 'Dreaming' Delenn, as an Acolyte, Urges the Gray Counsel to contact the Humans. So they can understand them and learn how they would react to things the Minbari may do. Ducot is for it, the others oppose it for cast reasons.
5) Ducot makes Delenn his aid.
6) Delenn holds her hand to the Trilumanary and it glows. Gray Council members give each other concerned looks.
7) Ducot tells Delenn she was chosen because of her heritage. The house of Meer and before. (klaxon)
8) Unknown ships detected. Delenn thinks there the humans. She had investigated them on her own.
9) The Humans fire on the Minbari fleet. Ducot in Delenn's arms. Says something. Delenn, frantic, ignores what he says then he dies. Delenn is asked to make the deciding vote on weather the Minbari should A) find out what happened or B) Strike them down. She chooses 'B' adding show them no mercy
10) After some vengeance had been taken Delenn seems to have a change of heart. A Minbari she is talking to ask if she takes back her vote. She tells him no, but is it time for wisdom?
11) Delenn leaves the 'Dream'. Lanear and Delenn discuss what it meant.
Lookes like Delenn wants to marry Sheridan over guilt over her vote to go to war.
Nether believe that.
12) Delenn and Lanear go back into the dream, grab the Minbari that was heading the inquiry after Delenn was thinking over what she saw before.
To find out just what Ducot had said before he died.
He tells her she is a 'child of Valin'
13) The argument to deny Delenn's marriage to Sheridan on account of him not being Minbari, to keep the blood pure.
Delenn is part Human. No matter who she marries her kids wont be pure Minbari.
Valin was part human and Delenn has some of his DNA in her. How many descendant did Valin have? Answer: too many to count.
Marriage to be allowed.
Minbari told it will be an old changing of a person after a war rule.
Drak start looking for a woman.
14) Franklin and Marcus go to Mars.
A) why was Delenn's bit about 'investigated them' left out of the move? (number '8' ) That is just too important!
B) Valins body never found after the 1,000 year past war.
C) It was hinted that the different spices can interbreed. Come on! We can't even breed with chimps ( as far as I know)!
1) In need of things from Earth B5 is going to use the Black Market.
2) In nine months Sheridan has overseen the breaking away from Clark's government on Earth, Fought a war and been declared dead.
Ivonava puts him on break.
3) The Garabaldi shouting match.
4) After taunting, Caption Jack gives the code word. Franklin and Marcus get there pasports. As a married couple.
5) Garabaldi is confronted by the mussel. They explain what Garabaldi seems to be feeling.
That Sheridan has gotten so full of his importance so sure of his infallibility he could destroy everything that they all had fought for.
6) Jack tells Franklin and Marcus the rumors that B5 was going to go to Mars with a a big alien fleet and take over. Or that he was going to abandon them, the resistance.
When was B5 helping the resistance? I don't recall it. I guess it is just too much for a tv show to include. So just pretend it happened.
7) Ivonava meets with the smugglers. She ask for food and medicine B5 can't produce or get from from other worlds. Has Earth stopped trading with the other worlds?
Ivonava will go out to 4 jumps out to protect them. She threatens to be the one who damages the ships and go so far as to turn them over as Earth wants some of them on warrants, if they don't sign on.
She tells them to play it clean and they will make money.
8) Franklin and Marcus's Identy cards don't match up to there DNA. Number Two gets ready to shoot them.
Number One shows up and Caption Jack shoots at her. Franklin jumps and knocks her out of the way. Marcus goes after Jack. Jack gets shot in the Minder. It falls off. Franklin gets it and examens it. Figures it can make Jack do what it wants him to do.
Jack gets away and tells them there is still a lot of the minder in him and it is regrowing. Jack kills himself.
Jack had exchanged the identy cards.
9) Sheridan tries to patch things up with Garabaldi when a woman treats him as some one who has been touched by the gods.
Garabaldi gets disgusted and knocks Sheridan down with a punch.
10) Garabaldi sings up with who ever is behind the mussel.
Pushing it for someone who has gotten distrustful to sign on with someone he doesn't know. Ill accept it as there story sounds good and Garabaldi is willing to check them out.
What I got from this episode
A) There is a minder, a MINDER! The Drakh are on Earth.
B) Garabaldi checking out a secret group opposed to Sheridan and doesn't like Clark ether. Is it a ruse to undermined them?
1) Franklin sends a message to B5, short and cryptic. If it is intercepted who it is for won't be known. Franklin tells #1 if Clark knew we were here he would go ballistic.
Good thing no one on Earth has any idea what Franklin looks like or would recognizes his voice as the message was sent not only in his voice but with video as well.
Ok in my mind a computer voice put it out with no video. What we do for tv.
2) Delenn gets a report that non Minbari transport ships from the smaller worlds allied with them are being attacked along there border. As the alliance was made with the Religious cast the Warrior cast wont defend them.
3) Bombing of a hotel on Mars. #1 angry. Bomber checked in with Donnavin on Earth. (so there is an Earth resistance as well.) #1 Tells the bomber she runs the resistance on Mars.
The bomber seems to be from Earth.
4) Ivonava is to set up 'The Voice of the Resistance' on B5 as she did such a good job with her information news show during the Shadow War.
5) Delenn takes a Wight Star task force to investigate the attacks on the Minbari allies. She gets a Pak'ma'ra asking for help. That ship gets destroyed before the task force gets there.
They come across the Drakh who speak Minbari.
A ship mate pulls a gun on Delenn. Tells her to follow the Drakh.
6) Blured and phased Drakh. Cool. Last time we see that.
The Drakh want a new world to call home. Theres had recently been destroyed.
Delenn figures they are former Shadow allies wanting to take there place.
Drakh find out who she is.
The envoy leaves. A fight starts. One of the Wight Stars gets destroyed before they make to hyper space.
The task force makes read for for a counter attack after a short bit in hyper space.
The
Wight Stars take out some ships seemingly the same size as the Wight Stars and the Drakh mouther ship.
7) Delenn tells Sheridan the Minbari Cast System is falling apart. She must go back to Minbar to fix it. To set up a new Gray counsel.
She tells Sheridan she investigated the Humans when she was in her government. She said we are dangerous. We make communities. No other world can stand up to that.
I'm not sure what is meant by that.
What I got from this episode.
A) Civil war on Minbar.
B) The Drakh are here. The Drakh are there. The Drakh are all around.
C) Sheridan wants/is going to take over the resistance.
1) Garabaldi finds a man's daughter. The man tells Garabaldi he was wrong about him.
2) Sheridan wants Garabaldi to turn in his extras from being security chief. He doesn't trust the company Garabaldi has been keeping.
3) Garabaldi is willing to sneak people and things around security after taking it personal that Allen asked for the link, Office identi card, and PPGs back.
4) Garabaldi has a back up security identi card. He uses it to get around station check in.
The person Garabaldi was to meat couldn't make so someone else came instead. It is his old girl friend.
5) Sheridan gets Londo and G'Kar togather. to discuss raiding on the edge of Stellar Government's territory.
Sheridan mentions the Drakh. Londo tells Sheridan they are a lejon <-- I can't find the correct spelling> Ruthless savage and extremely bright. They havent been herd from for 200 years. The Drakh have Shadow teck.
Sheridan wants the Rangers to guard the borders.
HAY! Londo left Centari Prime!
6) Allen gets a status report: ... 72 people get off a ship 71 report in.
Computer tells Allen one card was used in the bay. Security chef Garabaldi. Wasn't Garabaldi's security clearances canceled when Allen took over? Allen then cancels all of Garabaldi's identi cards.
7) Garabaldi finds he is smuggling a drug to help teeps with a disease that effects the teep DNA.
Some people start shooting at them. They run. Garabaldi's identi card won't work.
They go into the air vent, were there is no security. As no one would ever use one in an illegal way!
One of the shooters pokes his head into the vent were Garabaldi for some reason doesn't shoot even after the shooter points his ppg at him.
I have got to pay more attention here. Did Garabaldi take the ppg off the man in the fight before he ran?
Anyway The shooter then leaves. Garabaldi tells his group to stop. go back. The PPG shoots through the vent's bottom. Must be a vary thin bottom for a ppg to be able to shoot through. How dose it hold anybody?
Garabaldi helps Allen get the shooters and Hammelton and her mussel get fake identi cards to get back to Mars.
8) The shooters kill themselves when Allen finds them.
9) Ivonava goes on the air with the voice of the resistance.
What I got from this episode
A) The computer allows more then one security chef.
B) Why did Garabaldi let the teep get away? Did the teep control him? If so why not just make him go to sleep?
C) There is a Teep disease.
D) There are 10 Zathrises.
E) Why would a teep try to mess with a drug to cure a teep disease?
1) Sheridan has 'got it!". How to get the League of Non Alined Worlds to allow Wight Stars to patrol there borders.
2) The Minbar primary beacon is no longer transmitting.
Fighting has broken out in the capital.
3) Delenn worried that a thousand years of peace will turn into a thousand years of war. Delenn has contacted Naroon for a meeting.
4) Sheridan wants Londo and G'Kar to keep it a secret that the Centari and the Narn are allowing the Wight Stars to patrol there borders.
5) Delenn meats Naroon. The guards on both sides look nun too happy to see each other.
6) Delenn tells Naroon neather side can be allowed to win the Minbari civil war. She says she thinks Naroon thinks the same. Delenn trust Naroon to do what is wright for the Minbari people.
7) Delenn and Naroon worry there cast would turn against them if they knew what they were doing.
8) Marcus told to shoot a bunch of space rocks and go back to B5.
9) Even though Ivonava saying nothing happened in 83 by, 9 by, 12 when it is true, it is still a plant to get people to do something through manipulation.
I would think Sheridan would keep away from that. Or was that the old Sheridan?
Ether way it is dishonest. He should have tried something smarter rather then the easy way. Garabaldi was right on that point at least.
10) The religious and at least one of the warrior cast on the ship with Delenn and Naroon thought there side was going to surrender to the other.
Naroon got bonked, the religious members nearly killed them all through poisoned air.
11) Laneer sees the other members of his cast on the ship acting fishy and goes to see what they may have done. He stops the poison getting sick in the process.
Delenn tells her cast members on the ship how much better the religious cast is then the warrior cast.
12 Sheridan's plan worked. By getting the League nervous through fear of a new enemy they demand the Wight Stars to defend there boarders.
13) Naroon sneaks off the ship and reports to a Shyelite. Reports that he has plans from the religious cast. He tells the Shyelite they are divided. Says the Warrior Cast will win easy.
What I got from this episode
A) The Minbari civil war has gotten worse. So much for them being better then Humans.
B) Raiders and Drakh mentioned together as enemies on the borders.
C) Naroon breaks Delenns trust.
D) Tricking people to get them to do what is wanted doesn't help them to understand the big picture. Sheep are not the answer.
1) Garabaldi to smuggle in something not dangerous, explosive or illegal.
2) Minbari capital looking blasted.
3) Alexander not abel to get work as she has left Psy Core.
4) Chakerri tells Naroon the Religious Cast is annoyed with him. They though Naroon would move against Chakerri. Naroon tells him he could not.
Chakerri also says it was the religious cast that got the Minbari into the war with the Humans.
Religious had three votes. Ducot down makes that two. How many others were unable to vote I don't recall. ( I think the number is given ) The majority voted, Being last is no more then being first at final count.
Then the Religious just stopped.
Chakerri is willing to kill Religious Cast until they are overcome by the body count and surrender.
5) Garabaldi and a package before station check in.
Bester at check in. States he is on Psy Core business. Nothing to do with Command staff.
6) Garabaldi talks his way out of what happened to the package.
7) The Religious cast will surrender.
8) Ivonava on her stint as the Voice of the Resistance: Fourth major defection in the last few weeks. Away from Clark's Earth.
9) Why Sheridan hasn't set up a B5 Teep agency is just beyond me.
Why Alexander hasn't worked out something with other governments as her money dwindles is surprising.
Bester wants Alexander's body after she dies to exam what the Vorlons have done to her brain. In exchange he will let her be in the Psy Corp, non rogue status, so she can find work. She must die of natural causes for Psy Core to get the body.
10) Naroon chooses the Temple of Verini for the surrender. It is a pre Valin temple. Chosen as it is equipped to broadcast to all Minbar.
11) Alexander forced to move to smaller quarters. The Vorlons no longer pay for her housing.
Unlike Garabaldi, Alexander is glad to hear it from Allen.
12) Bester scanned Garabaldi quickly Alexander tells him. Garabaldi runs to Bester. Catches him and pins him to a wall. Much shouting by Garabaldi and Security takes Garabaldi away. Bester turns to go and Allen is there.
13) In the Temple of Verini Delenn passes to Lanear instructions for after this is done.
14) Religious Cast surrenders. Chakerri says he will form a Warrior council to run Minbar.
Delenn interrupts Chakerri. She states the Religious Cast did not surrender there rights.
Delenn invokes the Starfire. The trial of the cast leaders surrendering there life to show witch cast should rule.
Chakerri looks to be afraid to go into the Starfire.
Naroon repeats what Chakerri had said earlier. Life Death nether one is better then the other. Naroon doesn't support Chakerri.
Chakerri then steps into the Starfire. He looks to be much in pain and Delenn standing strong. Chakerri falls from the Starfire withering in pain on the floor.
Naroon, standing next to Lanear, tells him Delenn is suposed to step out of the Starfire. Why doesn't she?
Naroon runs to the Starfire, takes Delenn out.
He then proclaims his heart Religious Cast. He then dies at a final burst from the Starfire.
15) Garabaldi told to fire Alexander by Edgars. He hired he to piss off Bester.
Garabaldi complies.
16) Bester pushed Garabaldi further along with the scan.
That ends the speculation as to what was going on with Garabaldi!
Bester also got Alexander to sign off on giving her body to the Psy Core.
17) Delenn shows off the new Ruling Council.
Religious, Warrior, Religious, Warrior.
Before it was three from each cast. Now that changes. Five from the Worker Cast.
The Religious and Warrior casts are to advise and council.
Warrior and Religious are to serve the people, not the other way around.
18) Ivonava burst into Sheridan's room shouting. How could they do it?
Clark had 10,000 non combatants, Sick, young and old. Leaving colonies and coming through a jump gate, killed by blasting there ships after broad casting who there were.
Sheridan going to go after Clark. No more waiting, preparing.
What I got from this episode
A) Did anything happen to Bester for scanning Garabaldi?
B) Seems Delenn was expecting to die after she passed instructions to Lanear.
C) Chakerri is made to look like a child with a boo-boo. It makes the Minbari Warrior Cast look weak. This part was written for Chakerri to make him look like a wimp. I don't approve.
Making him look afraid to die for one reason or another at least lets the Warrior Cast seam like fighters. Not bullies who get hit back and run to mama crying.
D) The Minbari got there new government. Now to change Earth's.
1) Unscheduled early meeting for the Non Allied Worlds, Narn and Centari.
Sheridan declares all mutual defense treaties with Earth are now void.
G'Kar reminds them after there war the Narn helped Earth with weapons. Earth said it would help Narn if they needed it. But when they needed help Earth did nothing. Earth's anti alien policy will hurt them at some point Sheridan states.
Sheridan tells them there is a price for having there boarders patrolled, with raids down 70%, is one destroyer class ship.
Earth is to stand alone.
2) Vir tells Garabaldi Sheridan is going to take back Earth.
3) The old send in a few ships to the home port to get all the ships recalled trick.
4) Londo tells G'Kar they will never be friends, that he is a patriot like G'Kar is. ( G'Kar would not be the pawn Londo let him self be. Be so wrong all the time thinking he is wright.)
Londo has convinced his government to side with Sheridan over Earth and wants G'Kar to do the same.
Londo says for the first time in 100 years Narn and Centari have something in common beyond hate.
Londo pours a toast, G'Kar pours it back.
5) Getting ready to take Proxima III back. The Heracles and Pullax fired on civilians. The Nemesis and Vesta had gone to great length to avoid firing on civilians. The others we don't know.
Ether way if a ship fires or locks on shoot it.
6) After Mack breaks in to talk to Sheridan over the officer in charge talking to him, EA ship Heracles fires on Sheridan's forces. Mack on the Vesta decline to fight. Mack's 2ed officer takes over.
The Fury is non combative. Vesta restores Mack then leaves it's short stint in the battle.
The Juno runs away.
The Pullax takes an out of control Wight Star in the face and is destroyed.
The second officer relives the caption and surrenders.
The fight is over.
7) The captions of the ships, Less the Juno and the pullox, get to gather after an hour.
Sheridan gives them three options on what to do.
A) Crews can go home.
B) Stay and defend Proxima III
C) Join Sheridan
8) G'Kar will sign Londo's statement. Not on the same page.
9) Heracles will stay out of the war. It's caption under house arrest.
Eklen to guard Proxima III
Ungawi to join Sheridan as will Mack.
I'm guessing the Juno went back to Earth.
10) Garabaldi going to Earth not to return, so he says.
What I got from this episode
A) G'Kar must be in his government.
B) Garabaldi going to Mars. Edwards working on a cure for teeps. Garabaldi's mind controlled by the teeps. What does this all mean!
C) I would have thought the Wight Stars would have done better against the Earth ships.
I finished "The Long Night of Centauri Prime"
Best one so far. As far as Mariel and Timov goes, I had a hard time thinking she came from a House as far up as the writer did.
I couldn't see Timov careing for anything beyond her tea circle. At least finding a way to never have to bow to Londo.
Perhaps I'm too picky though.
1) Beta Durand and the Midrange Military Base have been "Liberated". From VOR on the march to Earth.
2) Garabaldi thinks in the worse case Sheridan will take Earth Gove for himself.
3) Edgars has his own private dock on Mars.
4) Wile takking to him self, Garabaldi says he must be out of his mind to be back on mars. He isn't in his right mind. ;)
5) Franklin mad that he can't remove the shadow teck from the cryo teeps. Alexander gets the one Franklin was working on to wake up.
Progress.
6) Garabaldi wants Edgers to stop Sheridan. To get him help.
Edgers changes the subject to building trust.
7) Alexander tells Franklin she herd the Shadow ship scream and pushed it aside. Then the cryo teep woke.
8) Garabaldi awoken, grabbed, not there, taken to a dark room with a teep sitting at a desk. Edgers' voice behind a one way mirror.
Q: What dose Garabaldi think of teeps?
A: He doesn't trust them. Doesn't like that they can get inside his head.
We, normals, will always be jealous.
Some day it will get ugly.
Q: When Garabaldi told Edgers he wanted to locate and secure someone was he telling the truth?
A: Yes. Teep confirms.
Garabaldi tells Edgers he was hired to protect, to save him if he gets caught. To save his neck.
Q: Dose Garabaldi recall anything from when he disappeared?
A: No. Teep confirms.
Q: are you still in love with Mrs. Edgers?
A: No. Teep indicates a lie.
After a bit the teep is shot dead.
9) Edgers tells Mrs Edgers she never came up in the conversation. A lie.
10) Franklin wants to do what Alexander did to the cryo teep with teck.
Cryo teep has a flash back of aliens around him with a drill.
He then grabs Franklin by the neck. Franklin tells cryo teep the Shadows and there ships are gone. He lets go, Franklin falls down.
Cryo teep turns to Alexander and ask what he is why he is. He tries to kill him self. She wont allow that and puts him to sleep.
11) Garabaldi ask Edgers what this is all about.
Edgers replies: What chance would a normal human have for happiness if teeps ran the world?
No chance for privacy. Normals would be second class citizens.
Garabaldi says there are some Psy Cops who think they should run things. But there aren't enough of them. 10,000 to one.
Edgers tells Garabaldi it will be a war of secrets, of intimidation.
With there badges off who could tell the difference?
Garabaldi ask, how could they take power?
Edgers answers, Power is given Clark used fear of aliens. Clark had aliens help get rid of Santiago.
Clark knew the aliens were interested in teeps, so he became interested.
The teeps were his insurance against the aliens.
Then he made Night Watch. Gave them unprecedented power. They wont want to give it up.
Edgers thinks that if Sheridan gets too close Clark will let Psy Corp run louse. answerable only to Clark himself.
Garabaldi states: thought police.
Edgers says they will never let go.
Sheridan is making Clark more paranoid. Giving more power to Pay Corp.
It is upsetting Edgers timetable.
Edgers ask if Garabaldi trust him enough to let him in the rest of the way.
12) Two destroyers sent to test B5 defenses switched sides.
13) Franklin tells Sheridan he thinks he can shut down the implants for a short time.
Franklin wants, no, needs to know what for.
Franklin points out how much Sheridan has changed after he came back from Z'Ha'Dum
Alexander and Franklin to go to Mars.
We at this point don't get to know what Sheridan told Franklin.
14) Mrs Edwards loves Mr Edgers she answers Garabaldi.
15) Edgars has three people in bed under medical care (or something).
Five days off the drug, they look bad. One hardly able to make himself understood.
Edgers says it will be over soon. To put them down. No need to cause more pain.
16) Garabaldi wants in all the way.
For proof Edgers wants Garabaldi to give Sheridan to Clark.
After some himmen-n-hawen Garabaldi tells Edgers to get to Sheridan get his father.
Sheridan has an easy to trace drug few people need. Everyone else in the universe is far too stupid to think of this. Please don't make Garabaldi look good by making others look like jackasses.
Once is too much. Weak dude!
Garabaldi decides to set up Sheridan.
What I got from this episode
A) Building trust in some cases is just having something on someone.
Perhaps getting them to do something and breaking there spirit.
Selling out there notion of right and wrong to someone else to make them whole. Good job on that here.
B) Seems Bester was right to check in on Edgers, if that is why he altered Garabaldi.
C) There are people rich enough to overthrow a multi planet government. At least in the EA.
D) There is a real reason teeps, at least some, need to be watched and on a short leash.
1) Why do Clark's forces keep fighting Sheridan even after there is no hope for winning?
2) Sheridan Sr. in custody.
Garabaldi makes reference to Jesus being turned over by one of his disciples as Sheridan'd dad gets taken through Garabaldi's help. After all the accusations of Sheridan think himself the second coming that just seemed odd. As JMS wanted me thinks.
3) Caption of the Cabalus ( <--- sorry, can't find correct spelling) thinks the crews are killed after the ships surrender.
Macki tells him he is alive as is his crew.
4) The Agamemnon pops in as this battle ends. They want to join.
5) Franklin and Alexander on Mars with #1. #1 not happy with a teep being in the midst. franklin tells her Alexander is needed for the cargo. Cryo teeps. Lots of them.
6) On the Agamemnon Sheridan finds out Clark has his dad. Garabaldi can get his dad out if Sheridan will meat with him, alone. Others object.
7) Ivonava to take over the fleet for Sheridan as he goes to get his father.
8) Beacon 119176? is that how many beacons or dose it refer to the location? Anyway...
Sheridan goes to Mars to meat with Garabaldi. Sheridan Sr. on Mars.
9) Teep Bloodhounds assigned to the military are deep scanning people on suspicion alone of being in the resistance. Such a thing is normally kept secret. That can cause damage up to death.
10) Garabaldi slaps a drug patch on Sheridan. Short fight. Sheridan taken.
11) Edgers gives Garabaldi the "truth" Edgers says Teeps are the problem. Clark won't last longer then a couple of years.
Teeps will be with us for ever.
Edgers made the disease to go along with the cure.
The Teeps will need a shot every day or die.
Edgers fears Teeps would make Normals 2ed class citizens as the Normals had done to the Teeps.
Ready to move the virus out in a few days. Three weeks latter the Teep problem will be solved.
Mrs. Edgers herd this.
Garabaldi activates something he takes from a fake tooth.
12) Bester tells Garabaldi he got his signal.
Bester surprised at the scope of this.
Bester removes what he did to Garabaldi's mind.
Bester tells Garabaldi what happened to him.
The Shadows see three people to replace Sheridan. Delenn, Ivonava and Garabaldi.
They thought Garabaldi the easiest to get on there side. Ivonava and Delenn to be removed.
Bester got in on the plain. He did some adjusting for him self.
Bester thinks the Shadows helped Edgers with the drug.
Bester increased Garabaldi's distrust of authority. He didn't expect Garabaldi to resign. It helped to get Edgers to hire him though. Kept him from his friends.
Bester nudged Garabaldi until he only worked for Bester's group.
Even selling out Sheridan.
Bester says he used Garabakdi because he had no other choice. He says he isn't cruel. Bester won't kill Garabaldi. Although that might be kinder.
After Bester leaves the transport Garabaldi will be himself.
"Be seeing you" Mr. Garabaldi says Bester. *
13) Garabaldi sends a message to B5. Ivonava puts him on Shoot On Sight.
The fight for Earth goes on.
14) Edwards dead Wade dieing Guards dead. Mrs Edwards had left when she found out about the drug. The drug, Virus and cure, gone.
15) Clark declares a day of celebration and rest on account of Sheridan's arrest.
What I got from this episode
A) * "Be seeing you"? Goes back to late season one or early season two. Now we know who the mole worked for. Garabaldi's second as I recall.
C) At this point we don't know what the Cryo Teeps are for.
D) Some soldiers believe the stories that the crews are killed by Sheridan's forces. That Minbari take over the ships.
Some people will believe anything.
2) The interrogator tells Sheridan not to lie. Sheridan is waring a Narn pain giver. 3' from the interrogator is pain, 2' is knocked out. ('=foot)
3) Sheridan doesn't consider him self political. The interrogator alters words to mean what he wants them to mean. Like politicians do. A ghost of what they really mean. Being under influence and being influenced are not the same.
Sheridan takes the sandwich, it is poisoned.
In the interrogator's lecture on what is truth he leaves out the 4th dimension. Time.
4) A Drazi is brought in and chained to the interrogator's chair. Seaming to be under duress he claims responsibility for manipulating Sheridan with Ivonava, Delenn and Sn. Ross Feller. He said into a recorder.
Feller had nothing to do with this but he may become a problem. The interrogator says.
The Drazi goes on, Sheridan is not responsable, .. Sheridan interrupts. Don't give them what they want. He says.
The Drazi refuses to give anything else.
Seems he is killed.
5) Sheridan told he is not expendable.
6) Interrogator tells Sheridan they want him broken. To hold up under a Psy scan. To show the system can't be beat.
7) Sheridan hallucinates Delenn is there. Takes his mind off the interrogation some.
8) Sheridan is a war hero. They put a lot of effort into building him up. Now that he has turned against them one of them has to go.
The aliens can be blamed. Sheridan tells the interrogator every time he says no he wins. :P
9) Sheridan is put on a board and wheeled out to a different room. Sheridan is left alone, no there is a Drazi in black with a hood over his face. A hallucination?
10) Sheridan is put into a room. 1st one or different one? Who knows.
There is a different interrogator. He starts all over.
11) The hooded Drazi is in the room. He pules off the hood and looks like the same Drazi Sheridan spook to before. Hallucination.
What I got from this episode.
A) Clark wants Sheridan broken to boost his side.
I don't always watch this. It really doesn't move along the show.
1) Sheridan on what looks like B5 talking with Franklin. Franklin ask what he did to get out.
Hay! He is still in prison. Being interrogated. There trying to alter his memories.
2) Clark's people don't want cooperation, they want conversion. Repentance.
3) Garabaldi makes contact with the Mars Resistance. They don't believe his Bester made me do it story.
4) Franklin declines to shoot, kill Garabaldi. He wants to hear Garabaldi's side of the story. Its Bester Garabaldi tells him.
Garabaldi sees Alexander, asks her to scan him.
#1 won't accept the scan as proof.
A short fight...
Garabaldi has level 12 blocks. Psy Cop blocks.
Garabaldi ask Alexander to push it.
A headache he can recover from, death not so much.
Alexander goes black eyes.
Breaks the blocks.
Alexander says it is all true. #1 ask why she should believe it. Still black eyed Alexander puts it into #1's mind.
#1 now believes Garabaldi. No more question.
5) The Damocles and Orion take the first shot at the Wight Stars. It was a short fight.
6) Londo calls a meeting of the Counsel on B5. Unanimous vote, Except for Delenn who doesn't know what the vote is about.
It is to support Ivonava. To help free Sheridan for how he helped them.
Things they would not help each other over.
7) Garabaldi Alexander and Franklin to free Sheridan.
At the closed gate the guide leaves them The guide tells them a heat sensors will detect PPG shots. What? it wont detect body heat? Now I'll pretend there waring body heat shielding. Otherwise there too dumb.
Then they leave the gate open! WTH? keep the trail as small as possible there.
8) One of the soldiers from the Damocles tells Ivonava not all the people who defected from Clark's side really defected. Clark knows about the rodnavou umm meeting point. He hopes for leniency at a trial.
The ships that are wating are a special elite force with new ships. A lot of them. If only Sheridan had a teep force!
9) On the way to get Sheridan the three jump two soldiers. Garabaldi gets stabbed.
There clothes are taken. Alexander hides the bodies. Bodies? They killed them?
10) Wight Stars go after the advance ships. No other ships.
11) Garabaldi's group talk there way past the first set of guards. With some talk, mind reading and two KOs they get to Sheridan.
Garabaldi's stab wound bleeding.
Back to the first set of guards they aren't so willing to let Sheridan go.
At the sight of blood on Garabaldi's back the guards set to fight.
They louse. No other guards called no pressing of a panic button.
Sheridan seems fine after shooting a down guard many times.
12) Wight Stars at meeting point. I counted 25 Wight Stars (pry wrong) Five jump points of Clark's ships.
Clark's advance have some Shadow bio teck. part organic hull design.
As I recall it took three normal ships to destroy a shadow ship
It seemed to take more to destroy an advanced Human ship.
Two Wight Star ships left to handle the last Advanced ship. It's dammaged I think.
Ivonava's ship takes a direct hit on the command deck from debris.
13) Sheridan meet Ivonava. She is close to death.
Ivonava tells Sheridan her group got them. There were more of them them Wight Stars.
Counting the fighters I'm guessing.
14) the last battle to be directed from the Agamemnon.
What I got from this episode
A) I am surprised #1 would accept information gotten from a teep so easy. Normals are so mutable.
B) Vorlons win at the Vorlon vs Shadow ally war?
C) Ivonava was a bit reckless. Angry I think.
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[QUOTE=Chaosed;169412] 7) Garabaldi Alexander and Franklin to free Sheridan.
At the closed gate the guide leaves them The guide tells them a heat sensors will detect PPG shots. What? it wont detect body heat? Now I'll pretend there waring body heat shielding. Otherwise there too dumb. [/QUOTE]
PPGs fire plasma, which is often extremely hot. Being sensitive enough to detect plasma shots doesn't mean being sensitive enough to detect body heat.
1) Ivonava is dieing. Marcus wants her in the battle, as he thinks she would want. Delenn says no. She will be better off on B5. Ivonava goes to B5.
2) Cryo teeps are sent to the Earth destroyers, one per ship.
A resistance soldier will smuggle them on.
3) A bunker soldier who seems to be in charge says he wishes he were on the Earth destroyers that are to stop Sheridan. The biggest fleet sense the battle of the Line.
He calls to another bunker. it goes unanswered.
A bunker soldier along with Garabaldi Franklin and Alexander who burst in ant take control.
4) On an Earth Force ship: The 2ed says theres something in hyperspace but he isn't sure if it is Sheridan. Should they go in?
The General says no. Hyperspace battles always a disaster for both sides.
The Cryo Teeps are loaded into the Earth Ships.
5) Alexander has to go outside as nothing can be between her and her target. Umm the ship's hulls don't count?
6) Marcus to take a Wight Star to mars and jump in close to the ground.
Many ships on the ground are destroyed.
7) Alexander wakes the Cryo Teeps. They stare to look for a machine.
8) Sheridan's ships jump in. Only ten of the Earth Ships are fully functional.
The nonfunctional ships have there weapons and engines destroyed.
9) With the fleet by Mars taken care of Sheridan takes his fleet to Earth.
Earth Beacon 11629.
10) Marcus finds the healing device that saved Garabaldi in a computer search.
Marcus goes to B5.
11) Sheridan tells Earth it is time for Clark to go. The other space faring worlds agree. He is here to remove a tyrant.
12) The defense grid is firing.
People in military garb and a woman pounding on the president's door.
Clark shoots himself.
The Woman, a senator, calls out to Sheridan and tells him the defense grid has been turned on Earth.
Sheridan calls the alien ships to help take out the defense grid.
13) Sheridan's ship, the Agamemnon, lost its weapons and is to ran the defense grid unit set to destroy the North American Eastern Sea Board.
Lentworth shows up in time to take out the unit.
Lentworth seems to have changed sides.
14) ISN Report: It has been a year sense Clark took over.
1:45 EST Sheridan took out Clark's forces.
15) Med lab trashed. Marcus hooked up to the machine with Ivonava.
What I got from this episode.
A) Hyperspace battles always a disaster for both sides? Remember this line next season.
B) Sheridan has to go to Earth Dome to state his case for fighting Earth.
1) Franklin consoles Ivonava. When he walks in to Med Lab he finds her on the flour most upset over why Marcus would give his life for her.
She says she fell in love with Marcus. All the others had been bad or empty.
Ivonava must be Bi.
2) Londo recalled to Centari Prime. His guidance is needed. He is to become Emperor.
3) Bester walks into the room were Sheridan is waiting. Garabaldi comes up.
Bester hypothetically says the Virus would be destroyed the antidote kept just in case. Bester threatens Sheridan over his lover if she had been used in the battle for earth.
Sheridan passes it off. Sheridan tells him he thinks he will move teeps into the government and start a teep and normal war.
Tells him Garabaldi will respond to what Bester did to him. Garabaldi told it all to Sheridan.
4) Garabaldi looks for Ms. Edgers.
5) The Earth Alliance has decided what to do with Sheridan.
Sheridan is to say what he did he did for the good of Earth. His conscience tells him he must resign Earth Force though.
He will keep his pension. His officers and crew will be given amnesty.
If he declines he will go to trial as will his officers. The tribunal will be stacked with the shoot him side.
The president tells him he did the right thing the wrong way.
Sheridan tells her if she puts it in writing he will resign.
6) Some rough guys holding someone for money. A knock at the door, a box left and taken. Porky Pig's Tha tha tha thats all folks! then a boom, smoke.
People drop from the ceiling, bash the door open. They look like Rangers.
Garabaldi is with them. He finds Ms Edgers.
7) Delenn got them to sign 'It" Laneer brings up what Ivonava said about Unrequited love. That all love is unrequited.
Delenn tells him he is wrong.
8) Sheridan gives his resignation speech.
He takes responsibility for his actions.
He quits Earth Force as long as amnesty is granted.
9) The League of non Aliened Worlds has a turn at giving a speech.
Ambassador G'Kar, He got his ambassadorship back.
NOTE: If you haven't read the Centari trilogy don't read this bit! He doesn't have it in the 2ed Centari book.
The League of Non Aliened Worlds has been dissolved. There is a New Alliance.
Delenn says the alliance will help the lesser worlds. It will help in trade and help keep the peace. The peace keepers will be the Rangers. (They do a noisy fly over in Wight Stars).
It is a political and economic alliance. The peace wont be enforced. The invaded world will be told and others will be asked to defend.
Earth is asked to join.
10) Negotiations to enter the Alliance is with it's president. That is Sheridan.
Sheridan finally meets up with his dad.
11) Earth joins the Alliance.
By Alliance charter colonies can vote for independence.
Most likely Mars will become independence.
12) Ivonava makes caption as one of Sheridan's last acts.
She declines B5. Takes the new Warlock shake down instead.
13) Sheridan and Delenn rumored to have gotten married on B5.
14) The Alliance to be run from B5 until a capital is built in Tuzanor on Minbar.
15) Year 2261. Dawn of a new age. Next twenty years to see much joy and sorrow. Teep war. Drakh war.
The Alliance will waver and crack. In the end it will hold.
What I got from this episode.
A) Looks mostly wrapped up. Yet there is another episode.
1) Delenn and Sheridan both back on B5.
What were watching turns out to be a recording. Time from this point to 1,000 years hence.
2) ISN Night side program. Subject: Opinion on weather Sheridan can hold the Alliance together.
Two not sure the other says no.
The 'no' man is in the party Clark was in. One of the others, a senator, says he is just saying that because he is in the party Clark was in. To get his party in the majority.
Host ask, Can Sheridan make a go of it, Make a difference and what are the problems?
It took Sheridan to free mars. The senate debated what to do with Mars for years. The 'no man' jumps in with,. At gun point!
That is a lie. The EA didn't have to join the Alliance.
The 3de person says, Sheridan has supply problems, sporadic fighting between some of the members, Teeps, raiders and the EA not trusting him.
The no man, Sheridan is power hungry. It wont work.
3) 100 years from initial point.
Three people discussing Sheridan and B5. First question: What role did B5 have in the 100 years of peace? Umm what about that little Centari thing in the next season? Or are they just discussing the EA?
Answer: Not any. It was just a nexus. Single people allow others to do.
No mention of the Vorlons or the Shadows. Bad job there.
Sheridan and Delenn were just things others saw what they needed to see in them.
So many people died after Sheridan and Delenn got back to B5.
The Teep colony witch helped to start the Teep war.
-vid- Garabaldi is held captive telling them it won't work. A tv has Sheridan saying he consulted with Caption Lockly. (*Sniff* The jurk faced suits let Claudia go as there poopy heads), they won't negotiate with terrorist.
PPG fire. Seems that Garabaldi got shot.
One of the speakers says Sheridan was pathological. Not that kind though.
2ed says it is all PR myth.
Everyone knows Sheridan died on Minbar.
1st says Delenn alive at 140? No way, 120 posible. Just another myth to keep people in line.
Q: Has the Alliance been a force for good?
It is, yes. 2ed says it is just megalomania ...
Klaxons go off. Minbari herold Chimes .. Delenn shows up.
She says Sheridan was a good kind decent man.
She tells them: That what you know you ignore. That witch you don't know you invent.
3) 500 years from starting point. Hologram of a B5 conference room. B5 was destroyed. 8o
Reason, for reverse correct info speak. Holograms added of Sheridan, Delenn Franklin and Garabaldi. With there personalities, to give an authentic account of history for the purpose of Earth to go it's own way, so it can expand.
Object is to ruin the credibility of the founders.
Earth Gov is split. This is the cusp of a civil war.
The Garabaldi program broadcast the conversation. There is always a boom.
4) 1,000 years from first time spot. An old man talking in a room to himself? a second man shows up at the door. Brothers in monk brown robes both. One old and fat the other young both human.
The younger has a crisis of faith.
Most of the records destroyed in the great burn.
Rome won't recognise the order.
There is proof of Delenn the 2ed in space. But space is closed to us now.
When the camera changes there are numbers on the side of the screen. The room seems to be recorded. Seems to who the old man is talking to.
The younger man leaves. The older man goes to the closet and pulls out a Ranger outfit.
He says 'we will rebuld Earth if it takes 2,000 years.
4) System has finished from it's original one million years of scanning date.
Did that include the Great Machine? Is it still there?
Convey to New Earth.
The Sun is going to destroy Earth.
What I got from this episode.
A) Humans made it one million more years. We are energy like Lorian was.
B) The Sun seems to die sooner then it should have.
C) There will be Lockly. The 3ed book had a title change.
For thous who don't know there were three books. In order as I recall,
The Earth Minbari War.
Babylon 5
Ivonava.
1) Lockly arrives. By saying B5 is run bad she inadvertently said Sheridan did a bad job.
2) A Ranger is tied up then killed to send a message.
3) Sheridan calls Lockly Ivonava replacement.
The question: How long will the writers take to settle Lockly in?
4) The Alliance to purchase B5. It is still Independent at this point.
5) Sheridan asked for Lockly to caption of B5. He likes the way she runs things.
On how the station is to be managed. Sheridan takes the political problems and Locky to take every thing else.
6) The dead Ranger is found in space.
A message pops up on a tv. It says: Dear Mr. President, as of this date you are officially a dead man. Have a nice day.
7) Lockly notices a man staring at her. As he walks toward he all sound stops. Byron ask her to meet her on Brown Three.
8) A bunch of teeps looking for a home. They don't want to join the Psy Corp or The Resistance.
B5 is independent it seems like a safe place Byron thinks. He will be putting out a call for other teeps. (Human I think)
Byron offeres to work for her to earn there stay.
9) A teep boy who likes to prowl in the ducts sees a man through the air screen with some parts. The kid then gets a vision of the man dressed like a Gane (if I have the correct name) shoot Sheridan.
The kid makes a noise. The man hears it then shortly shoots up into the duct. Some blood starts to run down the wall at the duct.
10) The kid shows up at the waiting room for the inauguration. He says nooo (first word he says in years) Then broadcast in teep the mental image of the man in the Gane suit shooting Sheridan.
The kid then dies (I think).
11) The killer takes a Star Fury and takes it to the observation dome (I think that is what it is called) were the inauguration is taking place.
In the killer's 'why I'm doing it' speech that he somehow managed to ether talk loud enough to go through a short bit of empty space or in a very few moments got into the audio system to say; Sheridan ruined his life by getting rid of Clark.
Garabaldi in a Star Fury grapples the killer's Star Fury. Pulls it away. apparently too surprised to react the killer dose not shoot.
Garabaldi lets the Star Fury go and the Station blast it to bits.
12) After a vary brief ceremony Sheridan is sworn in.
13) Sheridan grants the teeps authority to start a colony.
14) Garabaldi becomes the new head of covert intelligence.
Garabaldi ask witch side Locky was on during the war.
She says Earth.
What I got from this episode
A) We see at least one sore looser try to kill Sheridan.
B) A colony for Teeps! Good for Sheridan. I didn't think he could get along with someone who could do such things he could not. People he would soley have to take at there word.
Will he have the for sight to treat them like the Minbari do?
C) How long will Garabaldi hate Lockly? It took a wile for Sheridan to be trusted.
2) Londo's shipment of Bravarri is held up because of infestations. All food stuffs are Even things sealed up in glass bottles. Wile Vir is discussing with Allen Londo takes a bottle, opens it and takes a drink.
He then passes out. Poisoned?
3) Leneer tells Delenn he feels unneeded. He can't explain more then that, Delenn interrupts, "I know why" she says. Does he love her?
Leneer joins the Rangers.
4) Londo had a major heart attack. The left one.
5) Lond has a clot.
Not only that but his vascular system is constricted due to stress.
6) Delenn talking to Sheridan, as they leave she says, "with luck Mollary".
Londo herd this in his dream. In this dream he is wandering around looking for Delenn. Seems to be Down Below on B5.
He finds her, she is a Fortune teller. He sits at the table. She sets down a deck of cards. They start to bleed.
She tells him he is dieing. She ask if he wants to live. He wonders if any one cares. She ask for the last time if he wants to live.
He says yes. She tells him that isn't enough.
There is a word. "What word?" He ask. She does not respond.
Londo sees his metaphoric heart through a window on the floor.
He says he doesn't understand. Delenn says "Yes, you do".
Londo backs up into darkness. A glimpse of G'Kar.
7) Londo, in his dream, Goes to a bar on B5. All the bottles are empty.
He ask Sheridan if he got used to being dead.
Londo says he has died many times. Once when he was forced to divorce his first wife.
She was beneath him his family said.
Londo and Sheridan talked about dieing.
Sheridan says it is what is done with the time, not how much time there is.
Sheridan's cloths change to Ranger garb.
Londo says he doesn't want to die.
Sheridan tells him to turn around.
Londo says "no, he can't"
The cameras angel changes, shows G'Kar on a balcony. Sheridan tells Londo if he doesn't want to die he must turn around.
Sheridan has Wight Robes on now. He says good bye.
Londo gets worse.
8) Vir Med Lab and enters Londo's dream. Londo seems to know Vir is in the room.
Vir tells Londo to turn around. There is a flash of G'Kar's face.
Londo and Vir discuss prophecy. If Londo doesn't turn around the prophecy of dieing old will just be a dream.
Londo gets worse.
9) G'Kar walks into Med Lab. In the dream G'Kar says now we will end this.
Londo vary near death.
10) In the dream G'Kar and Londo talk. Now there in the Centary Throne room. They talk ... about Londo becoming Emperor, His going to watch Narn get bombed. Londo's saying nothing, nothing, nothing.
Now were G'Kar got wiped. G'Kar tells Londo he said nothing. G'Kar tells him only a word is needed.
Now Londo is changed to the pillar. G'Kar is now in Cartasia's garb. G'Kar tells the chained Londo 'only one word I want'
The wipping starts. At 39 Londo screams.
Now it is dark, just Londo and G'Kar. Londo ask who G'Kar is. Some bit of when G'Kar used 'dust' to get into Londo's mind and stayed,... His conscience perhaps?
G'Kar tells Londo he isn't sorry for what he did, only for getting caught.
Londo tells G'Kar he has never apologized for anything in his life. Londo is crying.
Londo says he is sorry.
Now at the glass window on the floor with Londo's heart behind it.
Londo, pounding the window, saying he is sorry. The window breaks.
In real life Londo stabilizes.
The left heart is normal now.
Londo sees G'Kar in real life and says sorry.
What I got from this episode
A) Londo divorced the dancer. OOOOOH, that explains that. I was so confused.
B) In the Rangers we will sail the seven voids, in the Rangers we will see what we can see!
C) Londo and G'Kar were getting along ok at this point. The timing of this episode seems off to me.
Londo could have been harboring guilt.
1) Sheridan trying to get the rest of the Alliance to sign the Declaration of Principles.
They see it as trying to legislate morality. They walk out.
Londo and Garabaldi think Sheridan should wait.
2) A Ranger sees the bombing of the Emphili
3) G'Kar re-wrights the Declarations of principles.
4) Garabaldi want to use Teeps. Sheridan tells him no. Tells him there is a Teep war coming.
Garabaldi talks Sheridan into letting him ask ByronLetting him use Teeps.
5) Byron says no. He won't take orders from mundanes.
He won't join an organisation that only wants him when they need him.
6) The Ranger's ship shows up at B5 shot up badly. The Ranger is dieing, unconscious. Alexander is asked to read his mind. She sees what the Emphili told the Ranger. The taking of there production. The bombing when they said no more. The Ranger tells her Raiders did it. Alexander watches him die in his mind.
7) Sheridan is going to send all the ships they can spare.
The Drazi ambassador is told as Emphili is on the edge of Drazi territory. The ambassador is sure the Drazi will help. Even though they have little to do with the Emphili.
8) We are shown the Drazi ambassador walk by. Byron sees this too.
We seem to need to know this.
9) Garabaldi gets Alexander to ask Byron to work for the Alliance.
10) Byron lets Alexander know how much of a 'lap dog' she is.
Byron tells her Teeps are better then Normals.
He will help if it is important to Alexander. She says yes.
He will sent two of his people who can handle the job. Two beyond reproach.
Byron says the Drazi ambassador is setting a trap for the Wight Stars. The Drazi help the Raiders plunder all the worlds on there border.
Alexander relays this to Sheridan. The Wight Stars are sent rate in.
Don't wate for the Drazi who will just back-stab them.
11) All the ambassadors are woken up to see a hologram of Emphili with the Raiders dispatched. The Wight Stars ready for a large force.
The Drazi ambassador seems agitated. He wants to call his home world.
Sheridan ask if it is his ships that will fight the Wight Stars.
The ambassador says yes, and please let him call his home world to stop them (they would have lost the fight).
The other ambassadors press in on him. He says they will stop the raids on all the border worlds.
He is then allowed to make the call.
All the ambassadors then sign the Principles.
12) G'Kar re-re-wrights the principles.
13) Sheridan gives Garabaldi the ok to set up a Teep Department. I guess the other OK was to see if Byron would do it.
14) Alexander wanta to hear more of what Byron has to say about Teeps.
Teep equality or Teep superiority?
What I got from this episode
A) Ok, theres Narn, Minbari and Centari with lots of smaller spices's ambassadors. There is no Human Ambassador. Sheridan is supposed to be the President. He should not be representing the Humans.
B) Why are only Humans in the Teep Department?
Not so united are they.
C) Sheridan seems to have a problem dealing with Teeps. On a human level.
1) Some ships blow up a probe in hyperspace with a B5 logo on it.
Lockly says they may be the advanced scouts the Gain warned them about.
There looking for worlds to invade in this sector.
I guess they don't know Epsilon V can defend it self. Although it hasn't done anything in a wile.
There passing the non aliened worlds. What makes them think they can hold any thing the major powers don't want them to hold?
2) Maintenance calls this the 3ed red alert this month.
3) B5 will defend itself. No Wight Stars.
That many fights going on? non to protect the capital.
4) What does the thing maintenance hover over the flour do? They don't know and they fix electronics like in Med Bay.
5) Franklin's why he saves everyone. His dad was saved when most would have let him die.
6) The first few ships taken out. There is a bug in the wires, Continuity. :) , It stopped the 2edary weapons from working.
7) maintenance gives the Ivonava's replacement is great speech. There will be more.
8) Garabaldi and Lockly still fighting. Seems the Gain fought the current invaders.
Garabaldi gives a small chance they'll live 12 hours.
9) Maintenance guy wonders why they don't shut down the gate. Other maintenance guy says it takes 5-7 days to git it working.
Also they would shout off there only escape.
Didn't they once separate the parts, or at least talk about separating them to keep it from working?
10) Maintenance guys take break in the observation dome. Watch the fight, the first wave.
Red explosions are ours, O2. Green explosions are theres.
A Wight Star pops in.
A breaching pod sends out a cable to latch on to a spinning B5.
They must have gotten smacked hard when they hit the turning hull.
11) People told to go to life pods, just in case.
The maintenance guys get into an elevator. It stops. The door is overridden and opened. A man is shot in the fighting and falls into the elevator. The guys run out and duck behind a big box.
A Human soldier in a fist fight sets down a gun on the box.
A bad guy goes to the box, the tall maintenance guy punches him down. The short one grabs the gun and shoots a bad guy.
Allen tells them to leave, they do.
12) They end up in Byron's place. Byron tells them there safe.
The Teeps are examining a helmet off a bad guy. It has some leftover energy. They can read it for a bit. Must be some brain splattered in the helmet.
A Bad guy walks to the opening. The Teeps make him go away.
13) Wight Stars show up. There were guarding Emphili.
That's what happens when too many are sent.
14) Second wave comes, one gets blasted then crashes into B5. The station starts burning, it has a big hole in it.
15) Delenn gets out of going to a life pod.
16) The Wight Stars show up.
Maintenance guy looks through a window at the flour. That should be ON the flour like in the first season. Lazy.
The fight is over.
17) Talking about the war, the maintenance guys say the bosses call the shots get the glory and 'we' have to clean up the mess.
As they walk on, the next room they come up to has Franklin checking people to see if there dead.
What I got from this Episode
A) Things from other episodes in this episode. :)
B) Were these supposed to be Shadow friends? Someone from outside this aria? From outside known space?
I like the way Vir is learning the ways of intrigue.
I'm guessing the Drackh teck level is close to Minbari. Otherwise I have to think the Centari fools with an empire.
Abel to keep it.
1) Turval, a teacher for the Rangers, gets invited to go to B5 to talk with Delenn about the Rangers. He brings along two trainees who can't meditate in silence.
2) A criminal, Trace, kills a man over late payments and to send a 'message'.
3) Garabaldi and Lockly argue over the sides on the 'liberating' Earth.
Witch side was Lockly on. The same side, well the side of Earth.
She gives up on that, goes to 'the side that doesn't challenge the chain of command'. On that point Sheridan broke away. Wasn't Garabaldi under Sheridan's command? (he may not have been I don't know) unless an order comes down that challenges her conscience.
Did she take up arms against her own government? "No" she says.
Garabaldi says "then the hell with the rest of the world?"
Lockly counters with, not knowing what is the best for the rest of the world, tare up the constitution she swore to protect.
She didn't know about the bombing of civilians on Mars? Would that not be banned by the constitution?
She goes on with loyalty, duty and honer. If she did it Garabaldi's way one of them would have to go she said.
There is no honer in serving the dishonorable . No duty I think in Earth's constitution to bomb civilians, kids. loyalty? That is nether good or bad. The best of people and the worst had loyal followers.
Lockly walks out, people clap.
Still not the end of the Lockly / Garabaldi fight.
4) Trace thinks Allen is doing a good job. He wants Allen killed.
5) There are fore more species in the Rangers.
The Pac'ma'ra are difficult to train. They smell bad.
Delenn says there using Minbary ways.
Perhaps using the different species on there own terms, what they are. Instead of trying to make them Minbary might work better.
The Pac'ma'ra might make good couriers. People ignore them.
6) Garabaldi sets up the Teep spies.
7) Allen set up to be killed by a woman who wants off B5. She doesn't know he is to be killed. Upon hearing she gets scared as her name is on the call.
Trace ready to kill her when one of the Ranger trainees hears the scuffle and intervenes.
He dose good until he is taken down.
They kick the Smurffs out of him.
The woman gets on a ship and leavs B5.
8) the teachers set up the application of terror. (what ever that is)
9) The Rangers are going to deal with Trace.
Lockly and security to stay out of it. Sheridan agrees.
Not like him Lockly says.
Lockly doesn't like the revenge. Delenn tells her it's about terror.
The terror from within.
The trainee goes in not being fully healed.
10) Security leaves the area where Trace is.
Emergency lights go on.
Trace's people taken out until he is alone.
The injured Ranger trainee has a pike. One is given to Trace. There are observers around the trainee and Trace. Trace cannot argue his way out of the fight.
they fight.
The trainee wins.
The trainee no longer feels fear.
Allen takes Trace.
11) Garabaldi and Allen talking in Allen's office,... Allen walks out.
Garabaldi seems to look at Lockly's file. Theres something between Sheridan and Lockly Garabaldi wants to know.
12) Delenn wants to know what Lockly meant by Lockly's statement 'that isn't like him'. She is talking to Sheridan in his quarters.
He makes a concerned face.
Latter in bed she is upset, her back to him.
She tells him it will take some getting used to.
What ever 'it' is.
What I got from this eaisode
A) The Rangers are taking in people from five worlds,species. Good for them.
1) Delenn tells Lockly she 'knows'. She still thinks Lockly is the best choice.
I should have been keeping track on who gets the most 'your the best for the job' on the replacements. Sheridan or Lockly.
Garabaldi around the corner. Delenn didn't say 'it' in plain English.
2) A Centari ship comes to take Londo to Centari Prime. Londo talking with Allen says this is were it really goes bad. What was the Shadow war then?
3) Alexander steals some drugs. Taking things that don't belong to you is stealing.
4) The other Teeps sense it, Byron tells Alexander to lower the walls the mundanes make them put up. A guard tells Garabaldi who no longer works for B5, Bester is on board and with Lockly.
Garabaldi runs to here office,.... Lockly punches him,
5) Franklin gets a job to look into cross species, world really, infections.
6) Earth has jurisdiction over it's people off Earth. Sense Mars is free what is it's line on teeps?
Can a person leave there government's rule?
What of the girl who went to Minbar?
7) The ship that was to take Londo to Centari Prime blue up when it programmed the jump. Londo wasn't on as there was an accident in transport.
What are the odds?
8) Bester here to arrest the 'blipes'.
Alexander blocks the Bloodhounds from sensing them.
They catch on, start to go were they think they are. Alexander gives two of them a TP slap. One at a time.
Bester leaves but will be back with station security. He doesn't think Alexander can stop them all.
Bester does nothing to her.
9) Lockly hadn't been hurt by Bester and he had helped her with a problem bleep. She doesn't him but has nothing against him, yet.
To get on Garabaldi's good side she tells him Sheridan wanted someone he could trust from the other side.
She also tells Garabaldi she was married to Sheridan. For three months.
10) The rounding up of the bleeps.
11) Delenn ask G'Kar to be Londo's body guard.
12) Besters Teeps need to be quarantined for sixty days. Something Lockly had Franklin come up with to at least delay the Teeps being sent to Earth.
13) Corwin gives another good job Lockly talk. When will it end!
14) Alexander joins the singing Teeps. Takes her Psy Corp badge off.
What I got from this episode
A) Was Sheridan's letting the Teeps stay on B5 hollow? It seems so.
I finished the last book in the Centari Trilogy.
I remember thinking it didn't quite fit in with the show.
I can't point out were though. Reading the books and being in a different place in the show did add to the confusion.
The lady who wrote the Tecknomages books said the two teckno trainees should not have been there according to her books. From the Babylon Podcast.
I didn't like Mariell dieing. It seemed to be an easy way to just deal with a problem.
All in all I liked the book. Most of the continuity problems seemed to go away at the end.
I'm impressed with the handling of Vir's becoming able to be a good emperor.
I admit that I've only read a few posts in this topic, some at the beginning, some at the ending, but you mentioning the Centauri trilogy is what made me decide to post right now.
Out of all the canon B5 books (To Dream in the City of Sorrows, The Shadow Within, the Psi Corps trilogy, the Centauri trilogy, and the Technomage trilogy), the Centauri trilogy is the only one I've never reread, which should tell you what I think about it right there. You are right to notice problems in the books, the biggest one for me is how there are about six months or so in between when Londo becomes emperor, and the final episodes of the show in 2262. From what I understand, Peter David got information with the wrong dates.
The books just really didn't do it for me. I thought that Galen's manipulation of Mariel's emotions was totally out of character, even when I read it back then when all I had seen of him was A Call to Arms and Crusade, and with how we learn more about him from the Technomage trilogy, it's even worse. I just cannot see Galen doing that. I really felt that the trilogy was a wasted oppertunity. It was one of the most interesting points in B5 history that wasn't shown in the show, and I thought it could have been much better.
The Psi Corps and Technomage trilogies though, were real SF books that I would still think were great even if they didn't have the B5 connection. I really have to say that I prefer how the technomages were depicted in Jeanne Cavelos's books than how JMS has shown them.
I seem to remember other things that were wrong in the Centauri trilogy, but I've never reread them (except for a few sentances maybe every two years or so to do some fact checking when talking about B5 stuff), and I only read the books once, while I've lost count of how many times I've read the other B5 books. For me, I'm not sure if I like the Psi Corps or Technomage books best.
Of course, it is true that there are mistakes I noticed in the Psi Corps and Technomage books as well, but I'm more willing to forgive them since I thought they were written so well. And if there were ever a series of Crusade novels released to finish it up, my top choice for that would definitely have to be Jeanne Cavelos.
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The lady who wrote the Tecknomages books said the two teckno trainees should not have been there according to her books. From the Babylon Podcast.
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Really? I thought it made sense. I just assumed that they also decided to leave when Galen left. And weren't there three Technomages besides Galen? I remember Kane and Gwynn, but I'm having trouble remembering the other guy's name. I'd really like to hear what Jeanne said about that.
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When people are reading the posts it wastes a lot of time when you have to read it 10 times to figure out what you're trying to say--and as I said earlier, some of your takes are quite good. :cool:
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DralaFi
I have found words on Dictionary.com that are underlined here.
Some times I wounder if they are too generous with word spellings.
If I spell a word wrong and it is the spelling for a different word I wont know.
I got sick and couldn't use more then one word in a sentence. three years ago I read my first book in 15ish years. The first Harry Potter book.
Sorry for boring.
PS the only red lined thing here is the name.
1) G'Kar gets his prosthetic eye. It also works when removed. Franklin advises him to shut it off when removed.
2) Delenn to go to Minbar without telling Sheridan why.
3) Delenn to go to the 'Dreaming' to see if there is a reason she should marry Sheridan.
Her clan has decided against it but are willing to be persuaded to allow the marriage.
4) In the 'Dreaming' Delenn, as an Acolyte, Urges the Gray Counsel to contact the Humans. So they can understand them and learn how they would react to things the Minbari may do. Ducot is for it, the others oppose it for cast reasons.
5) Ducot makes Delenn his aid.
6) Delenn holds her hand to the Trilumanary and it glows. Gray Council members give each other concerned looks.
7) Ducot tells Delenn she was chosen because of her heritage. The house of Meer and before. (klaxon)
8) Unknown ships detected. Delenn thinks there the humans. She had investigated them on her own.
9) The Humans fire on the Minbari fleet. Ducot in Delenn's arms. Says something. Delenn, frantic, ignores what he says then he dies. Delenn is asked to make the deciding vote on weather the Minbari should A) find out what happened or B) Strike them down. She chooses 'B' adding show them no mercy
10) After some vengeance had been taken Delenn seems to have a change of heart. A Minbari she is talking to ask if she takes back her vote. She tells him no, but is it time for wisdom?
11) Delenn leaves the 'Dream'. Lanear and Delenn discuss what it meant.
Lookes like Delenn wants to marry Sheridan over guilt over her vote to go to war.
Nether believe that.
12) Delenn and Lanear go back into the dream, grab the Minbari that was heading the inquiry after Delenn was thinking over what she saw before.
To find out just what Ducot had said before he died.
He tells her she is a 'child of Valin'
13) The argument to deny Delenn's marriage to Sheridan on account of him not being Minbari, to keep the blood pure.
Delenn is part Human. No matter who she marries her kids wont be pure Minbari.
Valin was part human and Delenn has some of his DNA in her. How many descendant did Valin have? Answer: too many to count.
Marriage to be allowed.
Minbari told it will be an old changing of a person after a war rule.
Drak start looking for a woman.
14) Franklin and Marcus go to Mars.
A) why was Delenn's bit about 'investigated them' left out of the move? (number '8' ) That is just too important!
B) Valins body never found after the 1,000 year past war.
C) It was hinted that the different spices can interbreed. Come on! We can't even breed with chimps ( as far as I know)!
Valin and Delenn are a special cases.
1) In need of things from Earth B5 is going to use the Black Market.
2) In nine months Sheridan has overseen the breaking away from Clark's government on Earth, Fought a war and been declared dead.
Ivonava puts him on break.
3) The Garabaldi shouting match.
4) After taunting, Caption Jack gives the code word. Franklin and Marcus get there pasports. As a married couple.
5) Garabaldi is confronted by the mussel. They explain what Garabaldi seems to be feeling.
That Sheridan has gotten so full of his importance so sure of his infallibility he could destroy everything that they all had fought for.
6) Jack tells Franklin and Marcus the rumors that B5 was going to go to Mars with a a big alien fleet and take over. Or that he was going to abandon them, the resistance.
When was B5 helping the resistance? I don't recall it. I guess it is just too much for a tv show to include. So just pretend it happened.
7) Ivonava meets with the smugglers. She ask for food and medicine B5 can't produce or get from from other worlds. Has Earth stopped trading with the other worlds?
Ivonava will go out to 4 jumps out to protect them. She threatens to be the one who damages the ships and go so far as to turn them over as Earth wants some of them on warrants, if they don't sign on.
She tells them to play it clean and they will make money.
8) Franklin and Marcus's Identy cards don't match up to there DNA. Number Two gets ready to shoot them.
Number One shows up and Caption Jack shoots at her. Franklin jumps and knocks her out of the way. Marcus goes after Jack. Jack gets shot in the Minder. It falls off. Franklin gets it and examens it. Figures it can make Jack do what it wants him to do.
Jack gets away and tells them there is still a lot of the minder in him and it is regrowing. Jack kills himself.
Jack had exchanged the identy cards.
9) Sheridan tries to patch things up with Garabaldi when a woman treats him as some one who has been touched by the gods.
Garabaldi gets disgusted and knocks Sheridan down with a punch.
10) Garabaldi sings up with who ever is behind the mussel.
Pushing it for someone who has gotten distrustful to sign on with someone he doesn't know. Ill accept it as there story sounds good and Garabaldi is willing to check them out.
What I got from this episode
A) There is a minder, a MINDER! The Drakh are on Earth.
B) Garabaldi checking out a secret group opposed to Sheridan and doesn't like Clark ether. Is it a ruse to undermined them?
1) Franklin sends a message to B5, short and cryptic. If it is intercepted who it is for won't be known. Franklin tells #1 if Clark knew we were here he would go ballistic.
Good thing no one on Earth has any idea what Franklin looks like or would recognizes his voice as the message was sent not only in his voice but with video as well.
Ok in my mind a computer voice put it out with no video. What we do for tv.
2) Delenn gets a report that non Minbari transport ships from the smaller worlds allied with them are being attacked along there border. As the alliance was made with the Religious cast the Warrior cast wont defend them.
3) Bombing of a hotel on Mars. #1 angry. Bomber checked in with Donnavin on Earth. (so there is an Earth resistance as well.) #1 Tells the bomber she runs the resistance on Mars.
The bomber seems to be from Earth.
4) Ivonava is to set up 'The Voice of the Resistance' on B5 as she did such a good job with her information news show during the Shadow War.
5) Delenn takes a Wight Star task force to investigate the attacks on the Minbari allies. She gets a Pak'ma'ra asking for help. That ship gets destroyed before the task force gets there.
They come across the Drakh who speak Minbari.
A ship mate pulls a gun on Delenn. Tells her to follow the Drakh.
6) Blured and phased Drakh. Cool. Last time we see that.
The Drakh want a new world to call home. Theres had recently been destroyed.
Delenn figures they are former Shadow allies wanting to take there place.
Drakh find out who she is.
The envoy leaves. A fight starts. One of the Wight Stars gets destroyed before they make to hyper space.
The task force makes read for for a counter attack after a short bit in hyper space.
The
Wight Stars take out some ships seemingly the same size as the Wight Stars and the Drakh mouther ship.
7) Delenn tells Sheridan the Minbari Cast System is falling apart. She must go back to Minbar to fix it. To set up a new Gray counsel.
She tells Sheridan she investigated the Humans when she was in her government. She said we are dangerous. We make communities. No other world can stand up to that.
I'm not sure what is meant by that.
What I got from this episode.
A) Civil war on Minbar.
B) The Drakh are here. The Drakh are there. The Drakh are all around.
C) Sheridan wants/is going to take over the resistance.
1) Garabaldi finds a man's daughter. The man tells Garabaldi he was wrong about him.
2) Sheridan wants Garabaldi to turn in his extras from being security chief. He doesn't trust the company Garabaldi has been keeping.
3) Garabaldi is willing to sneak people and things around security after taking it personal that Allen asked for the link, Office identi card, and PPGs back.
4) Garabaldi has a back up security identi card. He uses it to get around station check in.
The person Garabaldi was to meat couldn't make so someone else came instead. It is his old girl friend.
5) Sheridan gets Londo and G'Kar togather. to discuss raiding on the edge of Stellar Government's territory.
Sheridan mentions the Drakh. Londo tells Sheridan they are a lejon <-- I can't find the correct spelling> Ruthless savage and extremely bright. They havent been herd from for 200 years. The Drakh have Shadow teck.
Sheridan wants the Rangers to guard the borders.
HAY! Londo left Centari Prime!
6) Allen gets a status report: ... 72 people get off a ship 71 report in.
Computer tells Allen one card was used in the bay. Security chef Garabaldi. Wasn't Garabaldi's security clearances canceled when Allen took over? Allen then cancels all of Garabaldi's identi cards.
7) Garabaldi finds he is smuggling a drug to help teeps with a disease that effects the teep DNA.
Some people start shooting at them. They run. Garabaldi's identi card won't work.
They go into the air vent, were there is no security. As no one would ever use one in an illegal way!
One of the shooters pokes his head into the vent were Garabaldi for some reason doesn't shoot even after the shooter points his ppg at him.
I have got to pay more attention here. Did Garabaldi take the ppg off the man in the fight before he ran?
Anyway The shooter then leaves. Garabaldi tells his group to stop. go back. The PPG shoots through the vent's bottom. Must be a vary thin bottom for a ppg to be able to shoot through. How dose it hold anybody?
Garabaldi helps Allen get the shooters and Hammelton and her mussel get fake identi cards to get back to Mars.
8) The shooters kill themselves when Allen finds them.
9) Ivonava goes on the air with the voice of the resistance.
What I got from this episode
A) The computer allows more then one security chef.
B) Why did Garabaldi let the teep get away? Did the teep control him? If so why not just make him go to sleep?
C) There is a Teep disease.
D) There are 10 Zathrises.
E) Why would a teep try to mess with a drug to cure a teep disease?
1) Sheridan has 'got it!". How to get the League of Non Alined Worlds to allow Wight Stars to patrol there borders.
2) The Minbar primary beacon is no longer transmitting.
Fighting has broken out in the capital.
3) Delenn worried that a thousand years of peace will turn into a thousand years of war. Delenn has contacted Naroon for a meeting.
4) Sheridan wants Londo and G'Kar to keep it a secret that the Centari and the Narn are allowing the Wight Stars to patrol there borders.
5) Delenn meats Naroon. The guards on both sides look nun too happy to see each other.
6) Delenn tells Naroon neather side can be allowed to win the Minbari civil war. She says she thinks Naroon thinks the same. Delenn trust Naroon to do what is wright for the Minbari people.
7) Delenn and Naroon worry there cast would turn against them if they knew what they were doing.
8) Marcus told to shoot a bunch of space rocks and go back to B5.
9) Even though Ivonava saying nothing happened in 83 by, 9 by, 12 when it is true, it is still a plant to get people to do something through manipulation.
I would think Sheridan would keep away from that. Or was that the old Sheridan?
Ether way it is dishonest. He should have tried something smarter rather then the easy way. Garabaldi was right on that point at least.
10) The religious and at least one of the warrior cast on the ship with Delenn and Naroon thought there side was going to surrender to the other.
Naroon got bonked, the religious members nearly killed them all through poisoned air.
11) Laneer sees the other members of his cast on the ship acting fishy and goes to see what they may have done. He stops the poison getting sick in the process.
Delenn tells her cast members on the ship how much better the religious cast is then the warrior cast.
12 Sheridan's plan worked. By getting the League nervous through fear of a new enemy they demand the Wight Stars to defend there boarders.
13) Naroon sneaks off the ship and reports to a Shyelite. Reports that he has plans from the religious cast. He tells the Shyelite they are divided. Says the Warrior Cast will win easy.
What I got from this episode
A) The Minbari civil war has gotten worse. So much for them being better then Humans.
B) Raiders and Drakh mentioned together as enemies on the borders.
C) Naroon breaks Delenns trust.
D) Tricking people to get them to do what is wanted doesn't help them to understand the big picture. Sheep are not the answer.
1) Garabaldi to smuggle in something not dangerous, explosive or illegal.
2) Minbari capital looking blasted.
3) Alexander not abel to get work as she has left Psy Core.
4) Chakerri tells Naroon the Religious Cast is annoyed with him. They though Naroon would move against Chakerri. Naroon tells him he could not.
Chakerri also says it was the religious cast that got the Minbari into the war with the Humans.
Religious had three votes. Ducot down makes that two. How many others were unable to vote I don't recall. ( I think the number is given ) The majority voted, Being last is no more then being first at final count.
Then the Religious just stopped.
Chakerri is willing to kill Religious Cast until they are overcome by the body count and surrender.
5) Garabaldi and a package before station check in.
Bester at check in. States he is on Psy Core business. Nothing to do with Command staff.
6) Garabaldi talks his way out of what happened to the package.
7) The Religious cast will surrender.
8) Ivonava on her stint as the Voice of the Resistance: Fourth major defection in the last few weeks. Away from Clark's Earth.
9) Why Sheridan hasn't set up a B5 Teep agency is just beyond me.
Why Alexander hasn't worked out something with other governments as her money dwindles is surprising.
Bester wants Alexander's body after she dies to exam what the Vorlons have done to her brain. In exchange he will let her be in the Psy Corp, non rogue status, so she can find work. She must die of natural causes for Psy Core to get the body.
10) Naroon chooses the Temple of Verini for the surrender. It is a pre Valin temple. Chosen as it is equipped to broadcast to all Minbar.
11) Alexander forced to move to smaller quarters. The Vorlons no longer pay for her housing.
Unlike Garabaldi, Alexander is glad to hear it from Allen.
12) Bester scanned Garabaldi quickly Alexander tells him. Garabaldi runs to Bester. Catches him and pins him to a wall. Much shouting by Garabaldi and Security takes Garabaldi away. Bester turns to go and Allen is there.
13) In the Temple of Verini Delenn passes to Lanear instructions for after this is done.
14) Religious Cast surrenders. Chakerri says he will form a Warrior council to run Minbar.
Delenn interrupts Chakerri. She states the Religious Cast did not surrender there rights.
Delenn invokes the Starfire. The trial of the cast leaders surrendering there life to show witch cast should rule.
Chakerri looks to be afraid to go into the Starfire.
Naroon repeats what Chakerri had said earlier. Life Death nether one is better then the other. Naroon doesn't support Chakerri.
Chakerri then steps into the Starfire. He looks to be much in pain and Delenn standing strong. Chakerri falls from the Starfire withering in pain on the floor.
Naroon, standing next to Lanear, tells him Delenn is suposed to step out of the Starfire. Why doesn't she?
Naroon runs to the Starfire, takes Delenn out.
He then proclaims his heart Religious Cast. He then dies at a final burst from the Starfire.
15) Garabaldi told to fire Alexander by Edgars. He hired he to piss off Bester.
Garabaldi complies.
16) Bester pushed Garabaldi further along with the scan.
That ends the speculation as to what was going on with Garabaldi!
Bester also got Alexander to sign off on giving her body to the Psy Core.
17) Delenn shows off the new Ruling Council.
Religious, Warrior, Religious, Warrior.
Before it was three from each cast. Now that changes. Five from the Worker Cast.
The Religious and Warrior casts are to advise and council.
Warrior and Religious are to serve the people, not the other way around.
18) Ivonava burst into Sheridan's room shouting. How could they do it?
Clark had 10,000 non combatants, Sick, young and old. Leaving colonies and coming through a jump gate, killed by blasting there ships after broad casting who there were.
Sheridan going to go after Clark. No more waiting, preparing.
What I got from this episode
A) Did anything happen to Bester for scanning Garabaldi?
B) Seems Delenn was expecting to die after she passed instructions to Lanear.
C) Chakerri is made to look like a child with a boo-boo. It makes the Minbari Warrior Cast look weak. This part was written for Chakerri to make him look like a wimp. I don't approve.
Making him look afraid to die for one reason or another at least lets the Warrior Cast seam like fighters. Not bullies who get hit back and run to mama crying.
D) The Minbari got there new government. Now to change Earth's.
1) Unscheduled early meeting for the Non Allied Worlds, Narn and Centari.
Sheridan declares all mutual defense treaties with Earth are now void.
G'Kar reminds them after there war the Narn helped Earth with weapons. Earth said it would help Narn if they needed it. But when they needed help Earth did nothing. Earth's anti alien policy will hurt them at some point Sheridan states.
Sheridan tells them there is a price for having there boarders patrolled, with raids down 70%, is one destroyer class ship.
Earth is to stand alone.
2) Vir tells Garabaldi Sheridan is going to take back Earth.
3) The old send in a few ships to the home port to get all the ships recalled trick.
4) Londo tells G'Kar they will never be friends, that he is a patriot like G'Kar is. ( G'Kar would not be the pawn Londo let him self be. Be so wrong all the time thinking he is wright.)
Londo has convinced his government to side with Sheridan over Earth and wants G'Kar to do the same.
Londo says for the first time in 100 years Narn and Centari have something in common beyond hate.
Londo pours a toast, G'Kar pours it back.
5) Getting ready to take Proxima III back. The Heracles and Pullax fired on civilians. The Nemesis and Vesta had gone to great length to avoid firing on civilians. The others we don't know.
Ether way if a ship fires or locks on shoot it.
6) After Mack breaks in to talk to Sheridan over the officer in charge talking to him, EA ship Heracles fires on Sheridan's forces. Mack on the Vesta decline to fight. Mack's 2ed officer takes over.
The Fury is non combative. Vesta restores Mack then leaves it's short stint in the battle.
The Juno runs away.
The Pullax takes an out of control Wight Star in the face and is destroyed.
The second officer relives the caption and surrenders.
The fight is over.
7) The captions of the ships, Less the Juno and the pullox, get to gather after an hour.
Sheridan gives them three options on what to do.
A) Crews can go home.
B) Stay and defend Proxima III
C) Join Sheridan
8) G'Kar will sign Londo's statement. Not on the same page.
9) Heracles will stay out of the war. It's caption under house arrest.
Eklen to guard Proxima III
Ungawi to join Sheridan as will Mack.
I'm guessing the Juno went back to Earth.
10) Garabaldi going to Earth not to return, so he says.
What I got from this episode
A) G'Kar must be in his government.
B) Garabaldi going to Mars. Edwards working on a cure for teeps. Garabaldi's mind controlled by the teeps. What does this all mean!
C) I would have thought the Wight Stars would have done better against the Earth ships.
Best one so far. As far as Mariel and Timov goes, I had a hard time thinking she came from a House as far up as the writer did.
I couldn't see Timov careing for anything beyond her tea circle. At least finding a way to never have to bow to Londo.
Perhaps I'm too picky though.
Vir was rate on.
Good book. Another must read.
1) Beta Durand and the Midrange Military Base have been "Liberated". From VOR on the march to Earth.
2) Garabaldi thinks in the worse case Sheridan will take Earth Gove for himself.
3) Edgars has his own private dock on Mars.
4) Wile takking to him self, Garabaldi says he must be out of his mind to be back on mars. He isn't in his right mind. ;)
5) Franklin mad that he can't remove the shadow teck from the cryo teeps. Alexander gets the one Franklin was working on to wake up.
Progress.
6) Garabaldi wants Edgers to stop Sheridan. To get him help.
Edgers changes the subject to building trust.
7) Alexander tells Franklin she herd the Shadow ship scream and pushed it aside. Then the cryo teep woke.
8) Garabaldi awoken, grabbed, not there, taken to a dark room with a teep sitting at a desk. Edgers' voice behind a one way mirror.
Q: What dose Garabaldi think of teeps?
A: He doesn't trust them. Doesn't like that they can get inside his head.
We, normals, will always be jealous.
Some day it will get ugly.
Q: When Garabaldi told Edgers he wanted to locate and secure someone was he telling the truth?
A: Yes. Teep confirms.
Garabaldi tells Edgers he was hired to protect, to save him if he gets caught. To save his neck.
Q: Dose Garabaldi recall anything from when he disappeared?
A: No. Teep confirms.
Q: are you still in love with Mrs. Edgers?
A: No. Teep indicates a lie.
After a bit the teep is shot dead.
9) Edgers tells Mrs Edgers she never came up in the conversation. A lie.
10) Franklin wants to do what Alexander did to the cryo teep with teck.
Cryo teep has a flash back of aliens around him with a drill.
He then grabs Franklin by the neck. Franklin tells cryo teep the Shadows and there ships are gone. He lets go, Franklin falls down.
Cryo teep turns to Alexander and ask what he is why he is. He tries to kill him self. She wont allow that and puts him to sleep.
11) Garabaldi ask Edgers what this is all about.
Edgers replies: What chance would a normal human have for happiness if teeps ran the world?
No chance for privacy. Normals would be second class citizens.
Garabaldi says there are some Psy Cops who think they should run things. But there aren't enough of them. 10,000 to one.
Edgers tells Garabaldi it will be a war of secrets, of intimidation.
With there badges off who could tell the difference?
Garabaldi ask, how could they take power?
Edgers answers, Power is given Clark used fear of aliens. Clark had aliens help get rid of Santiago.
Clark knew the aliens were interested in teeps, so he became interested.
The teeps were his insurance against the aliens.
Then he made Night Watch. Gave them unprecedented power. They wont want to give it up.
Edgers thinks that if Sheridan gets too close Clark will let Psy Corp run louse. answerable only to Clark himself.
Garabaldi states: thought police.
Edgers says they will never let go.
Sheridan is making Clark more paranoid. Giving more power to Pay Corp.
It is upsetting Edgers timetable.
Edgers ask if Garabaldi trust him enough to let him in the rest of the way.
12) Two destroyers sent to test B5 defenses switched sides.
13) Franklin tells Sheridan he thinks he can shut down the implants for a short time.
Franklin wants, no, needs to know what for.
Franklin points out how much Sheridan has changed after he came back from Z'Ha'Dum
Alexander and Franklin to go to Mars.
We at this point don't get to know what Sheridan told Franklin.
14) Mrs Edwards loves Mr Edgers she answers Garabaldi.
15) Edgars has three people in bed under medical care (or something).
Five days off the drug, they look bad. One hardly able to make himself understood.
Edgers says it will be over soon. To put them down. No need to cause more pain.
16) Garabaldi wants in all the way.
For proof Edgers wants Garabaldi to give Sheridan to Clark.
After some himmen-n-hawen Garabaldi tells Edgers to get to Sheridan get his father.
Sheridan has an easy to trace drug few people need. Everyone else in the universe is far too stupid to think of this. Please don't make Garabaldi look good by making others look like jackasses.
Once is too much. Weak dude!
Garabaldi decides to set up Sheridan.
What I got from this episode
A) Building trust in some cases is just having something on someone.
Perhaps getting them to do something and breaking there spirit.
Selling out there notion of right and wrong to someone else to make them whole. Good job on that here.
B) Seems Bester was right to check in on Edgers, if that is why he altered Garabaldi.
C) There are people rich enough to overthrow a multi planet government. At least in the EA.
D) There is a real reason teeps, at least some, need to be watched and on a short leash.
1) Why do Clark's forces keep fighting Sheridan even after there is no hope for winning?
2) Sheridan Sr. in custody.
Garabaldi makes reference to Jesus being turned over by one of his disciples as Sheridan'd dad gets taken through Garabaldi's help. After all the accusations of Sheridan think himself the second coming that just seemed odd. As JMS wanted me thinks.
3) Caption of the Cabalus ( <--- sorry, can't find correct spelling) thinks the crews are killed after the ships surrender.
Macki tells him he is alive as is his crew.
4) The Agamemnon pops in as this battle ends. They want to join.
5) Franklin and Alexander on Mars with #1. #1 not happy with a teep being in the midst. franklin tells her Alexander is needed for the cargo. Cryo teeps. Lots of them.
6) On the Agamemnon Sheridan finds out Clark has his dad. Garabaldi can get his dad out if Sheridan will meat with him, alone. Others object.
7) Ivonava to take over the fleet for Sheridan as he goes to get his father.
8) Beacon 119176? is that how many beacons or dose it refer to the location? Anyway...
Sheridan goes to Mars to meat with Garabaldi. Sheridan Sr. on Mars.
9) Teep Bloodhounds assigned to the military are deep scanning people on suspicion alone of being in the resistance. Such a thing is normally kept secret. That can cause damage up to death.
10) Garabaldi slaps a drug patch on Sheridan. Short fight. Sheridan taken.
11) Edgers gives Garabaldi the "truth" Edgers says Teeps are the problem. Clark won't last longer then a couple of years.
Teeps will be with us for ever.
Edgers made the disease to go along with the cure.
The Teeps will need a shot every day or die.
Edgers fears Teeps would make Normals 2ed class citizens as the Normals had done to the Teeps.
Ready to move the virus out in a few days. Three weeks latter the Teep problem will be solved.
Mrs. Edgers herd this.
Garabaldi activates something he takes from a fake tooth.
12) Bester tells Garabaldi he got his signal.
Bester surprised at the scope of this.
Bester removes what he did to Garabaldi's mind.
Bester tells Garabaldi what happened to him.
The Shadows see three people to replace Sheridan. Delenn, Ivonava and Garabaldi.
They thought Garabaldi the easiest to get on there side. Ivonava and Delenn to be removed.
Bester got in on the plain. He did some adjusting for him self.
Bester thinks the Shadows helped Edgers with the drug.
Bester increased Garabaldi's distrust of authority. He didn't expect Garabaldi to resign. It helped to get Edgers to hire him though. Kept him from his friends.
Bester nudged Garabaldi until he only worked for Bester's group.
Even selling out Sheridan.
Bester says he used Garabakdi because he had no other choice. He says he isn't cruel. Bester won't kill Garabaldi. Although that might be kinder.
After Bester leaves the transport Garabaldi will be himself.
"Be seeing you" Mr. Garabaldi says Bester. *
13) Garabaldi sends a message to B5. Ivonava puts him on Shoot On Sight.
The fight for Earth goes on.
14) Edwards dead Wade dieing Guards dead. Mrs Edwards had left when she found out about the drug. The drug, Virus and cure, gone.
15) Clark declares a day of celebration and rest on account of Sheridan's arrest.
What I got from this episode
A) * "Be seeing you"? Goes back to late season one or early season two. Now we know who the mole worked for. Garabaldi's second as I recall.
C) At this point we don't know what the Cryo Teeps are for.
D) Some soldiers believe the stories that the crews are killed by Sheridan's forces. That Minbari take over the ships.
Some people will believe anything.
1) Sheridan in prison.
2) The interrogator tells Sheridan not to lie. Sheridan is waring a Narn pain giver. 3' from the interrogator is pain, 2' is knocked out. ('=foot)
3) Sheridan doesn't consider him self political. The interrogator alters words to mean what he wants them to mean. Like politicians do. A ghost of what they really mean. Being under influence and being influenced are not the same.
Sheridan takes the sandwich, it is poisoned.
In the interrogator's lecture on what is truth he leaves out the 4th dimension. Time.
4) A Drazi is brought in and chained to the interrogator's chair. Seaming to be under duress he claims responsibility for manipulating Sheridan with Ivonava, Delenn and Sn. Ross Feller. He said into a recorder.
Feller had nothing to do with this but he may become a problem. The interrogator says.
The Drazi goes on, Sheridan is not responsable, .. Sheridan interrupts. Don't give them what they want. He says.
The Drazi refuses to give anything else.
Seems he is killed.
5) Sheridan told he is not expendable.
6) Interrogator tells Sheridan they want him broken. To hold up under a Psy scan. To show the system can't be beat.
7) Sheridan hallucinates Delenn is there. Takes his mind off the interrogation some.
8) Sheridan is a war hero. They put a lot of effort into building him up. Now that he has turned against them one of them has to go.
The aliens can be blamed. Sheridan tells the interrogator every time he says no he wins. :P
9) Sheridan is put on a board and wheeled out to a different room. Sheridan is left alone, no there is a Drazi in black with a hood over his face. A hallucination?
10) Sheridan is put into a room. 1st one or different one? Who knows.
There is a different interrogator. He starts all over.
11) The hooded Drazi is in the room. He pules off the hood and looks like the same Drazi Sheridan spook to before. Hallucination.
What I got from this episode.
A) Clark wants Sheridan broken to boost his side.
I don't always watch this. It really doesn't move along the show.
1) Sheridan on what looks like B5 talking with Franklin. Franklin ask what he did to get out.
Hay! He is still in prison. Being interrogated. There trying to alter his memories.
2) Clark's people don't want cooperation, they want conversion. Repentance.
3) Garabaldi makes contact with the Mars Resistance. They don't believe his Bester made me do it story.
4) Franklin declines to shoot, kill Garabaldi. He wants to hear Garabaldi's side of the story. Its Bester Garabaldi tells him.
Garabaldi sees Alexander, asks her to scan him.
#1 won't accept the scan as proof.
A short fight...
Garabaldi has level 12 blocks. Psy Cop blocks.
Garabaldi ask Alexander to push it.
A headache he can recover from, death not so much.
Alexander goes black eyes.
Breaks the blocks.
Alexander says it is all true. #1 ask why she should believe it. Still black eyed Alexander puts it into #1's mind.
#1 now believes Garabaldi. No more question.
5) The Damocles and Orion take the first shot at the Wight Stars. It was a short fight.
6) Londo calls a meeting of the Counsel on B5. Unanimous vote, Except for Delenn who doesn't know what the vote is about.
It is to support Ivonava. To help free Sheridan for how he helped them.
Things they would not help each other over.
7) Garabaldi Alexander and Franklin to free Sheridan.
At the closed gate the guide leaves them The guide tells them a heat sensors will detect PPG shots. What? it wont detect body heat? Now I'll pretend there waring body heat shielding. Otherwise there too dumb.
Then they leave the gate open! WTH? keep the trail as small as possible there.
8) One of the soldiers from the Damocles tells Ivonava not all the people who defected from Clark's side really defected. Clark knows about the rodnavou umm meeting point. He hopes for leniency at a trial.
The ships that are wating are a special elite force with new ships. A lot of them. If only Sheridan had a teep force!
9) On the way to get Sheridan the three jump two soldiers. Garabaldi gets stabbed.
There clothes are taken. Alexander hides the bodies. Bodies? They killed them?
10) Wight Stars go after the advance ships. No other ships.
11) Garabaldi's group talk there way past the first set of guards. With some talk, mind reading and two KOs they get to Sheridan.
Garabaldi's stab wound bleeding.
Back to the first set of guards they aren't so willing to let Sheridan go.
At the sight of blood on Garabaldi's back the guards set to fight.
They louse. No other guards called no pressing of a panic button.
Sheridan seems fine after shooting a down guard many times.
12) Wight Stars at meeting point. I counted 25 Wight Stars (pry wrong) Five jump points of Clark's ships.
Clark's advance have some Shadow bio teck. part organic hull design.
As I recall it took three normal ships to destroy a shadow ship
It seemed to take more to destroy an advanced Human ship.
Two Wight Star ships left to handle the last Advanced ship. It's dammaged I think.
Ivonava's ship takes a direct hit on the command deck from debris.
13) Sheridan meet Ivonava. She is close to death.
Ivonava tells Sheridan her group got them. There were more of them them Wight Stars.
Counting the fighters I'm guessing.
14) the last battle to be directed from the Agamemnon.
What I got from this episode
A) I am surprised #1 would accept information gotten from a teep so easy. Normals are so mutable.
B) Vorlons win at the Vorlon vs Shadow ally war?
C) Ivonava was a bit reckless. Angry I think.
At the closed gate the guide leaves them The guide tells them a heat sensors will detect PPG shots. What? it wont detect body heat? Now I'll pretend there waring body heat shielding. Otherwise there too dumb. [/QUOTE]
PPGs fire plasma, which is often extremely hot. Being sensitive enough to detect plasma shots doesn't mean being sensitive enough to detect body heat.
1) Ivonava is dieing. Marcus wants her in the battle, as he thinks she would want. Delenn says no. She will be better off on B5. Ivonava goes to B5.
2) Cryo teeps are sent to the Earth destroyers, one per ship.
A resistance soldier will smuggle them on.
3) A bunker soldier who seems to be in charge says he wishes he were on the Earth destroyers that are to stop Sheridan. The biggest fleet sense the battle of the Line.
He calls to another bunker. it goes unanswered.
A bunker soldier along with Garabaldi Franklin and Alexander who burst in ant take control.
4) On an Earth Force ship: The 2ed says theres something in hyperspace but he isn't sure if it is Sheridan. Should they go in?
The General says no. Hyperspace battles always a disaster for both sides.
The Cryo Teeps are loaded into the Earth Ships.
5) Alexander has to go outside as nothing can be between her and her target. Umm the ship's hulls don't count?
6) Marcus to take a Wight Star to mars and jump in close to the ground.
Many ships on the ground are destroyed.
7) Alexander wakes the Cryo Teeps. They stare to look for a machine.
8) Sheridan's ships jump in. Only ten of the Earth Ships are fully functional.
The nonfunctional ships have there weapons and engines destroyed.
9) With the fleet by Mars taken care of Sheridan takes his fleet to Earth.
Earth Beacon 11629.
10) Marcus finds the healing device that saved Garabaldi in a computer search.
Marcus goes to B5.
11) Sheridan tells Earth it is time for Clark to go. The other space faring worlds agree. He is here to remove a tyrant.
12) The defense grid is firing.
People in military garb and a woman pounding on the president's door.
Clark shoots himself.
The Woman, a senator, calls out to Sheridan and tells him the defense grid has been turned on Earth.
Sheridan calls the alien ships to help take out the defense grid.
13) Sheridan's ship, the Agamemnon, lost its weapons and is to ran the defense grid unit set to destroy the North American Eastern Sea Board.
Lentworth shows up in time to take out the unit.
Lentworth seems to have changed sides.
14) ISN Report: It has been a year sense Clark took over.
1:45 EST Sheridan took out Clark's forces.
15) Med lab trashed. Marcus hooked up to the machine with Ivonava.
What I got from this episode.
A) Hyperspace battles always a disaster for both sides? Remember this line next season.
B) Sheridan has to go to Earth Dome to state his case for fighting Earth.
1) Franklin consoles Ivonava. When he walks in to Med Lab he finds her on the flour most upset over why Marcus would give his life for her.
She says she fell in love with Marcus. All the others had been bad or empty.
Ivonava must be Bi.
2) Londo recalled to Centari Prime. His guidance is needed. He is to become Emperor.
3) Bester walks into the room were Sheridan is waiting. Garabaldi comes up.
Bester hypothetically says the Virus would be destroyed the antidote kept just in case. Bester threatens Sheridan over his lover if she had been used in the battle for earth.
Sheridan passes it off. Sheridan tells him he thinks he will move teeps into the government and start a teep and normal war.
Tells him Garabaldi will respond to what Bester did to him. Garabaldi told it all to Sheridan.
4) Garabaldi looks for Ms. Edgers.
5) The Earth Alliance has decided what to do with Sheridan.
Sheridan is to say what he did he did for the good of Earth. His conscience tells him he must resign Earth Force though.
He will keep his pension. His officers and crew will be given amnesty.
If he declines he will go to trial as will his officers. The tribunal will be stacked with the shoot him side.
The president tells him he did the right thing the wrong way.
Sheridan tells her if she puts it in writing he will resign.
6) Some rough guys holding someone for money. A knock at the door, a box left and taken. Porky Pig's Tha tha tha thats all folks! then a boom, smoke.
People drop from the ceiling, bash the door open. They look like Rangers.
Garabaldi is with them. He finds Ms Edgers.
7) Delenn got them to sign 'It" Laneer brings up what Ivonava said about Unrequited love. That all love is unrequited.
Delenn tells him he is wrong.
8) Sheridan gives his resignation speech.
He takes responsibility for his actions.
He quits Earth Force as long as amnesty is granted.
9) The League of non Aliened Worlds has a turn at giving a speech.
Ambassador G'Kar, He got his ambassadorship back.
NOTE: If you haven't read the Centari trilogy don't read this bit! He doesn't have it in the 2ed Centari book.
The League of Non Aliened Worlds has been dissolved. There is a New Alliance.
Delenn says the alliance will help the lesser worlds. It will help in trade and help keep the peace. The peace keepers will be the Rangers. (They do a noisy fly over in Wight Stars).
It is a political and economic alliance. The peace wont be enforced. The invaded world will be told and others will be asked to defend.
Earth is asked to join.
10) Negotiations to enter the Alliance is with it's president. That is Sheridan.
Sheridan finally meets up with his dad.
11) Earth joins the Alliance.
By Alliance charter colonies can vote for independence.
Most likely Mars will become independence.
12) Ivonava makes caption as one of Sheridan's last acts.
She declines B5. Takes the new Warlock shake down instead.
13) Sheridan and Delenn rumored to have gotten married on B5.
14) The Alliance to be run from B5 until a capital is built in Tuzanor on Minbar.
15) Year 2261. Dawn of a new age. Next twenty years to see much joy and sorrow. Teep war. Drakh war.
The Alliance will waver and crack. In the end it will hold.
What I got from this episode.
A) Looks mostly wrapped up. Yet there is another episode.
1) Delenn and Sheridan both back on B5.
What were watching turns out to be a recording. Time from this point to 1,000 years hence.
2) ISN Night side program. Subject: Opinion on weather Sheridan can hold the Alliance together.
Two not sure the other says no.
The 'no' man is in the party Clark was in. One of the others, a senator, says he is just saying that because he is in the party Clark was in. To get his party in the majority.
Host ask, Can Sheridan make a go of it, Make a difference and what are the problems?
It took Sheridan to free mars. The senate debated what to do with Mars for years. The 'no man' jumps in with,. At gun point!
That is a lie. The EA didn't have to join the Alliance.
The 3de person says, Sheridan has supply problems, sporadic fighting between some of the members, Teeps, raiders and the EA not trusting him.
The no man, Sheridan is power hungry. It wont work.
3) 100 years from initial point.
Three people discussing Sheridan and B5. First question: What role did B5 have in the 100 years of peace? Umm what about that little Centari thing in the next season? Or are they just discussing the EA?
Answer: Not any. It was just a nexus. Single people allow others to do.
No mention of the Vorlons or the Shadows. Bad job there.
Sheridan and Delenn were just things others saw what they needed to see in them.
So many people died after Sheridan and Delenn got back to B5.
The Teep colony witch helped to start the Teep war.
-vid- Garabaldi is held captive telling them it won't work. A tv has Sheridan saying he consulted with Caption Lockly. (*Sniff* The jurk faced suits let Claudia go as there poopy heads), they won't negotiate with terrorist.
PPG fire. Seems that Garabaldi got shot.
One of the speakers says Sheridan was pathological. Not that kind though.
2ed says it is all PR myth.
Everyone knows Sheridan died on Minbar.
1st says Delenn alive at 140? No way, 120 posible. Just another myth to keep people in line.
Q: Has the Alliance been a force for good?
It is, yes. 2ed says it is just megalomania ...
Klaxons go off. Minbari herold Chimes .. Delenn shows up.
She says Sheridan was a good kind decent man.
She tells them: That what you know you ignore. That witch you don't know you invent.
3) 500 years from starting point. Hologram of a B5 conference room. B5 was destroyed. 8o
Reason, for reverse correct info speak. Holograms added of Sheridan, Delenn Franklin and Garabaldi. With there personalities, to give an authentic account of history for the purpose of Earth to go it's own way, so it can expand.
Object is to ruin the credibility of the founders.
Earth Gov is split. This is the cusp of a civil war.
The Garabaldi program broadcast the conversation. There is always a boom.
4) 1,000 years from first time spot. An old man talking in a room to himself? a second man shows up at the door. Brothers in monk brown robes both. One old and fat the other young both human.
The younger has a crisis of faith.
Most of the records destroyed in the great burn.
Rome won't recognise the order.
There is proof of Delenn the 2ed in space. But space is closed to us now.
When the camera changes there are numbers on the side of the screen. The room seems to be recorded. Seems to who the old man is talking to.
The younger man leaves. The older man goes to the closet and pulls out a Ranger outfit.
He says 'we will rebuld Earth if it takes 2,000 years.
4) System has finished from it's original one million years of scanning date.
Did that include the Great Machine? Is it still there?
Convey to New Earth.
The Sun is going to destroy Earth.
What I got from this episode.
A) Humans made it one million more years. We are energy like Lorian was.
B) The Sun seems to die sooner then it should have.
C) There will be Lockly. The 3ed book had a title change.
For thous who don't know there were three books. In order as I recall,
The Earth Minbari War.
Babylon 5
Ivonava.
1) Lockly arrives. By saying B5 is run bad she inadvertently said Sheridan did a bad job.
2) A Ranger is tied up then killed to send a message.
3) Sheridan calls Lockly Ivonava replacement.
The question: How long will the writers take to settle Lockly in?
4) The Alliance to purchase B5. It is still Independent at this point.
5) Sheridan asked for Lockly to caption of B5. He likes the way she runs things.
On how the station is to be managed. Sheridan takes the political problems and Locky to take every thing else.
6) The dead Ranger is found in space.
A message pops up on a tv. It says: Dear Mr. President, as of this date you are officially a dead man. Have a nice day.
7) Lockly notices a man staring at her. As he walks toward he all sound stops. Byron ask her to meet her on Brown Three.
8) A bunch of teeps looking for a home. They don't want to join the Psy Corp or The Resistance.
B5 is independent it seems like a safe place Byron thinks. He will be putting out a call for other teeps. (Human I think)
Byron offeres to work for her to earn there stay.
9) A teep boy who likes to prowl in the ducts sees a man through the air screen with some parts. The kid then gets a vision of the man dressed like a Gane (if I have the correct name) shoot Sheridan.
The kid makes a noise. The man hears it then shortly shoots up into the duct. Some blood starts to run down the wall at the duct.
10) The kid shows up at the waiting room for the inauguration. He says nooo (first word he says in years) Then broadcast in teep the mental image of the man in the Gane suit shooting Sheridan.
The kid then dies (I think).
11) The killer takes a Star Fury and takes it to the observation dome (I think that is what it is called) were the inauguration is taking place.
In the killer's 'why I'm doing it' speech that he somehow managed to ether talk loud enough to go through a short bit of empty space or in a very few moments got into the audio system to say; Sheridan ruined his life by getting rid of Clark.
Garabaldi in a Star Fury grapples the killer's Star Fury. Pulls it away. apparently too surprised to react the killer dose not shoot.
Garabaldi lets the Star Fury go and the Station blast it to bits.
12) After a vary brief ceremony Sheridan is sworn in.
13) Sheridan grants the teeps authority to start a colony.
14) Garabaldi becomes the new head of covert intelligence.
Garabaldi ask witch side Locky was on during the war.
She says Earth.
What I got from this episode
A) We see at least one sore looser try to kill Sheridan.
B) A colony for Teeps! Good for Sheridan. I didn't think he could get along with someone who could do such things he could not. People he would soley have to take at there word.
Will he have the for sight to treat them like the Minbari do?
C) How long will Garabaldi hate Lockly? It took a wile for Sheridan to be trusted.
1) Laneer quits his post as Delenn's aid.
2) Londo's shipment of Bravarri is held up because of infestations. All food stuffs are Even things sealed up in glass bottles. Wile Vir is discussing with Allen Londo takes a bottle, opens it and takes a drink.
He then passes out. Poisoned?
3) Leneer tells Delenn he feels unneeded. He can't explain more then that, Delenn interrupts, "I know why" she says. Does he love her?
Leneer joins the Rangers.
4) Londo had a major heart attack. The left one.
5) Lond has a clot.
Not only that but his vascular system is constricted due to stress.
6) Delenn talking to Sheridan, as they leave she says, "with luck Mollary".
Londo herd this in his dream. In this dream he is wandering around looking for Delenn. Seems to be Down Below on B5.
He finds her, she is a Fortune teller. He sits at the table. She sets down a deck of cards. They start to bleed.
She tells him he is dieing. She ask if he wants to live. He wonders if any one cares. She ask for the last time if he wants to live.
He says yes. She tells him that isn't enough.
There is a word. "What word?" He ask. She does not respond.
Londo sees his metaphoric heart through a window on the floor.
He says he doesn't understand. Delenn says "Yes, you do".
Londo backs up into darkness. A glimpse of G'Kar.
7) Londo, in his dream, Goes to a bar on B5. All the bottles are empty.
He ask Sheridan if he got used to being dead.
Londo says he has died many times. Once when he was forced to divorce his first wife.
She was beneath him his family said.
Londo and Sheridan talked about dieing.
Sheridan says it is what is done with the time, not how much time there is.
Sheridan's cloths change to Ranger garb.
Londo says he doesn't want to die.
Sheridan tells him to turn around.
Londo says "no, he can't"
The cameras angel changes, shows G'Kar on a balcony. Sheridan tells Londo if he doesn't want to die he must turn around.
Sheridan has Wight Robes on now. He says good bye.
Londo gets worse.
8) Vir Med Lab and enters Londo's dream. Londo seems to know Vir is in the room.
Vir tells Londo to turn around. There is a flash of G'Kar's face.
Londo and Vir discuss prophecy. If Londo doesn't turn around the prophecy of dieing old will just be a dream.
Londo gets worse.
9) G'Kar walks into Med Lab. In the dream G'Kar says now we will end this.
Londo vary near death.
10) In the dream G'Kar and Londo talk. Now there in the Centary Throne room. They talk ... about Londo becoming Emperor, His going to watch Narn get bombed. Londo's saying nothing, nothing, nothing.
Now were G'Kar got wiped. G'Kar tells Londo he said nothing. G'Kar tells him only a word is needed.
Now Londo is changed to the pillar. G'Kar is now in Cartasia's garb. G'Kar tells the chained Londo 'only one word I want'
The wipping starts. At 39 Londo screams.
Now it is dark, just Londo and G'Kar. Londo ask who G'Kar is. Some bit of when G'Kar used 'dust' to get into Londo's mind and stayed,... His conscience perhaps?
G'Kar tells Londo he isn't sorry for what he did, only for getting caught.
Londo tells G'Kar he has never apologized for anything in his life. Londo is crying.
Londo says he is sorry.
Now at the glass window on the floor with Londo's heart behind it.
Londo, pounding the window, saying he is sorry. The window breaks.
In real life Londo stabilizes.
The left heart is normal now.
Londo sees G'Kar in real life and says sorry.
What I got from this episode
A) Londo divorced the dancer. OOOOOH, that explains that. I was so confused.
B) In the Rangers we will sail the seven voids, in the Rangers we will see what we can see!
C) Londo and G'Kar were getting along ok at this point. The timing of this episode seems off to me.
Londo could have been harboring guilt.
1) Sheridan trying to get the rest of the Alliance to sign the Declaration of Principles.
They see it as trying to legislate morality. They walk out.
Londo and Garabaldi think Sheridan should wait.
2) A Ranger sees the bombing of the Emphili
3) G'Kar re-wrights the Declarations of principles.
4) Garabaldi want to use Teeps. Sheridan tells him no. Tells him there is a Teep war coming.
Garabaldi talks Sheridan into letting him ask ByronLetting him use Teeps.
5) Byron says no. He won't take orders from mundanes.
He won't join an organisation that only wants him when they need him.
6) The Ranger's ship shows up at B5 shot up badly. The Ranger is dieing, unconscious. Alexander is asked to read his mind. She sees what the Emphili told the Ranger. The taking of there production. The bombing when they said no more. The Ranger tells her Raiders did it. Alexander watches him die in his mind.
7) Sheridan is going to send all the ships they can spare.
The Drazi ambassador is told as Emphili is on the edge of Drazi territory. The ambassador is sure the Drazi will help. Even though they have little to do with the Emphili.
8) We are shown the Drazi ambassador walk by. Byron sees this too.
We seem to need to know this.
9) Garabaldi gets Alexander to ask Byron to work for the Alliance.
10) Byron lets Alexander know how much of a 'lap dog' she is.
Byron tells her Teeps are better then Normals.
He will help if it is important to Alexander. She says yes.
He will sent two of his people who can handle the job. Two beyond reproach.
Byron says the Drazi ambassador is setting a trap for the Wight Stars. The Drazi help the Raiders plunder all the worlds on there border.
Alexander relays this to Sheridan. The Wight Stars are sent rate in.
Don't wate for the Drazi who will just back-stab them.
11) All the ambassadors are woken up to see a hologram of Emphili with the Raiders dispatched. The Wight Stars ready for a large force.
The Drazi ambassador seems agitated. He wants to call his home world.
Sheridan ask if it is his ships that will fight the Wight Stars.
The ambassador says yes, and please let him call his home world to stop them (they would have lost the fight).
The other ambassadors press in on him. He says they will stop the raids on all the border worlds.
He is then allowed to make the call.
All the ambassadors then sign the Principles.
12) G'Kar re-re-wrights the principles.
13) Sheridan gives Garabaldi the ok to set up a Teep Department. I guess the other OK was to see if Byron would do it.
14) Alexander wanta to hear more of what Byron has to say about Teeps.
Teep equality or Teep superiority?
What I got from this episode
A) Ok, theres Narn, Minbari and Centari with lots of smaller spices's ambassadors. There is no Human Ambassador. Sheridan is supposed to be the President. He should not be representing the Humans.
B) Why are only Humans in the Teep Department?
Not so united are they.
C) Sheridan seems to have a problem dealing with Teeps. On a human level.
1) Some ships blow up a probe in hyperspace with a B5 logo on it.
Lockly says they may be the advanced scouts the Gain warned them about.
There looking for worlds to invade in this sector.
I guess they don't know Epsilon V can defend it self. Although it hasn't done anything in a wile.
There passing the non aliened worlds. What makes them think they can hold any thing the major powers don't want them to hold?
2) Maintenance calls this the 3ed red alert this month.
3) B5 will defend itself. No Wight Stars.
That many fights going on? non to protect the capital.
4) What does the thing maintenance hover over the flour do? They don't know and they fix electronics like in Med Bay.
5) Franklin's why he saves everyone. His dad was saved when most would have let him die.
6) The first few ships taken out. There is a bug in the wires, Continuity. :) , It stopped the 2edary weapons from working.
7) maintenance gives the Ivonava's replacement is great speech. There will be more.
8) Garabaldi and Lockly still fighting. Seems the Gain fought the current invaders.
Garabaldi gives a small chance they'll live 12 hours.
9) Maintenance guy wonders why they don't shut down the gate. Other maintenance guy says it takes 5-7 days to git it working.
Also they would shout off there only escape.
Didn't they once separate the parts, or at least talk about separating them to keep it from working?
10) Maintenance guys take break in the observation dome. Watch the fight, the first wave.
Red explosions are ours, O2. Green explosions are theres.
A Wight Star pops in.
A breaching pod sends out a cable to latch on to a spinning B5.
They must have gotten smacked hard when they hit the turning hull.
11) People told to go to life pods, just in case.
The maintenance guys get into an elevator. It stops. The door is overridden and opened. A man is shot in the fighting and falls into the elevator. The guys run out and duck behind a big box.
A Human soldier in a fist fight sets down a gun on the box.
A bad guy goes to the box, the tall maintenance guy punches him down. The short one grabs the gun and shoots a bad guy.
Allen tells them to leave, they do.
12) They end up in Byron's place. Byron tells them there safe.
The Teeps are examining a helmet off a bad guy. It has some leftover energy. They can read it for a bit. Must be some brain splattered in the helmet.
A Bad guy walks to the opening. The Teeps make him go away.
13) Wight Stars show up. There were guarding Emphili.
That's what happens when too many are sent.
14) Second wave comes, one gets blasted then crashes into B5. The station starts burning, it has a big hole in it.
15) Delenn gets out of going to a life pod.
16) The Wight Stars show up.
Maintenance guy looks through a window at the flour. That should be ON the flour like in the first season. Lazy.
The fight is over.
17) Talking about the war, the maintenance guys say the bosses call the shots get the glory and 'we' have to clean up the mess.
As they walk on, the next room they come up to has Franklin checking people to see if there dead.
What I got from this Episode
A) Things from other episodes in this episode. :)
B) Were these supposed to be Shadow friends? Someone from outside this aria? From outside known space?
C) Lockly likes to give others a hard time.
I like the way Vir is learning the ways of intrigue.
I'm guessing the Drackh teck level is close to Minbari. Otherwise I have to think the Centari fools with an empire.
Abel to keep it.
Thus the need for the Teckno mages.
A must read.
1) Turval, a teacher for the Rangers, gets invited to go to B5 to talk with Delenn about the Rangers. He brings along two trainees who can't meditate in silence.
2) A criminal, Trace, kills a man over late payments and to send a 'message'.
3) Garabaldi and Lockly argue over the sides on the 'liberating' Earth.
Witch side was Lockly on. The same side, well the side of Earth.
She gives up on that, goes to 'the side that doesn't challenge the chain of command'. On that point Sheridan broke away. Wasn't Garabaldi under Sheridan's command? (he may not have been I don't know) unless an order comes down that challenges her conscience.
Did she take up arms against her own government? "No" she says.
Garabaldi says "then the hell with the rest of the world?"
Lockly counters with, not knowing what is the best for the rest of the world, tare up the constitution she swore to protect.
She didn't know about the bombing of civilians on Mars? Would that not be banned by the constitution?
She goes on with loyalty, duty and honer. If she did it Garabaldi's way one of them would have to go she said.
There is no honer in serving the dishonorable . No duty I think in Earth's constitution to bomb civilians, kids. loyalty? That is nether good or bad. The best of people and the worst had loyal followers.
Lockly walks out, people clap.
Still not the end of the Lockly / Garabaldi fight.
4) Trace thinks Allen is doing a good job. He wants Allen killed.
5) There are fore more species in the Rangers.
The Pac'ma'ra are difficult to train. They smell bad.
Delenn says there using Minbary ways.
Perhaps using the different species on there own terms, what they are. Instead of trying to make them Minbary might work better.
The Pac'ma'ra might make good couriers. People ignore them.
6) Garabaldi sets up the Teep spies.
7) Allen set up to be killed by a woman who wants off B5. She doesn't know he is to be killed. Upon hearing she gets scared as her name is on the call.
Trace ready to kill her when one of the Ranger trainees hears the scuffle and intervenes.
He dose good until he is taken down.
They kick the Smurffs out of him.
The woman gets on a ship and leavs B5.
8) the teachers set up the application of terror. (what ever that is)
9) The Rangers are going to deal with Trace.
Lockly and security to stay out of it. Sheridan agrees.
Not like him Lockly says.
Lockly doesn't like the revenge. Delenn tells her it's about terror.
The terror from within.
The trainee goes in not being fully healed.
10) Security leaves the area where Trace is.
Emergency lights go on.
Trace's people taken out until he is alone.
The injured Ranger trainee has a pike. One is given to Trace. There are observers around the trainee and Trace. Trace cannot argue his way out of the fight.
they fight.
The trainee wins.
The trainee no longer feels fear.
Allen takes Trace.
11) Garabaldi and Allen talking in Allen's office,... Allen walks out.
Garabaldi seems to look at Lockly's file. Theres something between Sheridan and Lockly Garabaldi wants to know.
12) Delenn wants to know what Lockly meant by Lockly's statement 'that isn't like him'. She is talking to Sheridan in his quarters.
He makes a concerned face.
Latter in bed she is upset, her back to him.
She tells him it will take some getting used to.
What ever 'it' is.
What I got from this eaisode
A) The Rangers are taking in people from five worlds,species. Good for them.
B) Sheridan and Garabaldi don't figure this out.
1) Delenn tells Lockly she 'knows'. She still thinks Lockly is the best choice.
I should have been keeping track on who gets the most 'your the best for the job' on the replacements. Sheridan or Lockly.
Garabaldi around the corner. Delenn didn't say 'it' in plain English.
2) A Centari ship comes to take Londo to Centari Prime. Londo talking with Allen says this is were it really goes bad. What was the Shadow war then?
3) Alexander steals some drugs. Taking things that don't belong to you is stealing.
4) The other Teeps sense it, Byron tells Alexander to lower the walls the mundanes make them put up. A guard tells Garabaldi who no longer works for B5, Bester is on board and with Lockly.
Garabaldi runs to here office,.... Lockly punches him,
5) Franklin gets a job to look into cross species, world really, infections.
6) Earth has jurisdiction over it's people off Earth. Sense Mars is free what is it's line on teeps?
Can a person leave there government's rule?
What of the girl who went to Minbar?
7) The ship that was to take Londo to Centari Prime blue up when it programmed the jump. Londo wasn't on as there was an accident in transport.
What are the odds?
8) Bester here to arrest the 'blipes'.
Alexander blocks the Bloodhounds from sensing them.
They catch on, start to go were they think they are. Alexander gives two of them a TP slap. One at a time.
Bester leaves but will be back with station security. He doesn't think Alexander can stop them all.
Bester does nothing to her.
9) Lockly hadn't been hurt by Bester and he had helped her with a problem bleep. She doesn't him but has nothing against him, yet.
To get on Garabaldi's good side she tells him Sheridan wanted someone he could trust from the other side.
She also tells Garabaldi she was married to Sheridan. For three months.
10) The rounding up of the bleeps.
11) Delenn ask G'Kar to be Londo's body guard.
12) Besters Teeps need to be quarantined for sixty days. Something Lockly had Franklin come up with to at least delay the Teeps being sent to Earth.
13) Corwin gives another good job Lockly talk. When will it end!
14) Alexander joins the singing Teeps. Takes her Psy Corp badge off.
What I got from this episode
A) Was Sheridan's letting the Teeps stay on B5 hollow? It seems so.
I remember thinking it didn't quite fit in with the show.
I can't point out were though. Reading the books and being in a different place in the show did add to the confusion.
The lady who wrote the Tecknomages books said the two teckno trainees should not have been there according to her books. From the Babylon Podcast.
I didn't like Mariell dieing. It seemed to be an easy way to just deal with a problem.
All in all I liked the book. Most of the continuity problems seemed to go away at the end.
I'm impressed with the handling of Vir's becoming able to be a good emperor.
Out of all the canon B5 books (To Dream in the City of Sorrows, The Shadow Within, the Psi Corps trilogy, the Centauri trilogy, and the Technomage trilogy), the Centauri trilogy is the only one I've never reread, which should tell you what I think about it right there. You are right to notice problems in the books, the biggest one for me is how there are about six months or so in between when Londo becomes emperor, and the final episodes of the show in 2262. From what I understand, Peter David got information with the wrong dates.
The books just really didn't do it for me. I thought that Galen's manipulation of Mariel's emotions was totally out of character, even when I read it back then when all I had seen of him was A Call to Arms and Crusade, and with how we learn more about him from the Technomage trilogy, it's even worse. I just cannot see Galen doing that. I really felt that the trilogy was a wasted oppertunity. It was one of the most interesting points in B5 history that wasn't shown in the show, and I thought it could have been much better.
The Psi Corps and Technomage trilogies though, were real SF books that I would still think were great even if they didn't have the B5 connection. I really have to say that I prefer how the technomages were depicted in Jeanne Cavelos's books than how JMS has shown them.
I seem to remember other things that were wrong in the Centauri trilogy, but I've never reread them (except for a few sentances maybe every two years or so to do some fact checking when talking about B5 stuff), and I only read the books once, while I've lost count of how many times I've read the other B5 books. For me, I'm not sure if I like the Psi Corps or Technomage books best.
Of course, it is true that there are mistakes I noticed in the Psi Corps and Technomage books as well, but I'm more willing to forgive them since I thought they were written so well. And if there were ever a series of Crusade novels released to finish it up, my top choice for that would definitely have to be Jeanne Cavelos.
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The lady who wrote the Tecknomages books said the two teckno trainees should not have been there according to her books. From the Babylon Podcast.
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Really? I thought it made sense. I just assumed that they also decided to leave when Galen left. And weren't there three Technomages besides Galen? I remember Kane and Gwynn, but I'm having trouble remembering the other guy's name. I'd really like to hear what Jeanne said about that.