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[URL=http://www.startrekofgodsandmen.com/trailer/STOGAMhigh.mov]Thoughts?[/URL]
I like the camera work... very BSG. :) Also, they seem to have assembled quite a cast of Star Trek regulars. I think it should be interesting.
I like the camera work... very BSG. :) Also, they seem to have assembled quite a cast of Star Trek regulars. I think it should be interesting.
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Edit, my bro and i were talking about it on aim and I said this:
[quote] there is an amzing ammount of people who do the fan based movies, i mean uhura probably had more acting in that one line about the children than she probably ever did[/quote]
Unfortunately, it looks like complete crap. My dining room has better lighting, the blocking's bad, the camera work is awful, the cg didn't take five minutes in Maya, and Alan Ruck is remarkably amateurish. The directing is nothing short of a disaster. I have trouble believing Tim Russ (or any professional actor, for that matter) directed this.
<3 Koenig, but this is terrible.
I did however watch the New Voyages episode with Koenig, Man that guy acts circles around the rest of the cast. I appreciate what they are trying to do, but its just so amateurish. Still Koenig rocks, I hope Bester makes it into the new B5 movies.
The Klingon makeup was great can't argue with me on that. I hope that woman on ruck's left is not supposed to be a borg if so I wonder how big her rack is compared to Sevens.
Anyway jokes aside its looks like fun for some kind of alternate universe. Its likely that is the final rendering with the CGI since they did use in a trailer. I just hope these guys don't plan on doing some fan based Matrix crap. /puke
New Voyages is excellent and if you saw the earlier episodes the cast has improved alot. Koenig is the man dog and I felt his Russianess with each word he hung. The other Chekhov seemed to happy but thats probably a directing decision.
I am undecided about this... I don't really like fan stuff in general, and if this isn't going to be canon it could just get confusing?
The point is, just don't be surprised when this, as fun as it may be, is flagrantly contradicted by anything made by anyone henceforth.
As for Walter Koenig's "acting..." if that's what you can call it. He plays his characters all the same, only the outfits and the haircuts change (well, mostly not even those). With all due respect, he doesn't have a lot of latitude. I liked him as Bester, but that's partly because of the excellent writing.
A lot of familiar faces indeed, but this trailer isn't particular convincing, it lacks the right momentum and instead of delivering a blast it only erupts into a fizzle.
Nice try and certainly deserves an "A" for effort, but it's not ready for prime time. This proves that actors can only do so much, there is much more to editing than meets the eye.
Nice pyrotechnics... except for the planet... it lacks mass. I don't expect it to blow up like a watermelon. :D
[B][url]http://bester.ytmnd.com/[/url] [/B][/QUOTE]
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It's far more likely he's just a damn good actor who keeps getting typecast. The same thing happened to George Takei, who's only managed to find creative freedom on stage.
I've rarely seen otherwise.
Thats another great thing about stage your inhouse fighting behind stage can sometimes manifest on stage subtely.
I was pretty jealous of Frederic the main character so the second day I decided to give him a high five and as he went to hit my hand I pulled away and walked off. hehe
Its all good fun. By the way should have the DVD by next week. Anybody want a copy pm me.
Hell, they might even get better with time, ala new voyages.
Something I'd rather enjoy seeing is a fan-made series about the missions of the Excelsior. I see no problem in recruiting Takei to take on the task of sulu, and Tim Russ has always been great with fan relations.
The whole alternate universe thing messes with me, but it's their money, not mine. Sometimes, risks need to be taken for a good product to be made. Maybe it will pay off, maybe it won't. Regardless, lessons will be learned and (hopefully) better work will be produced in time. Once again, I put New Voyages beside it as a comparison (especially as they share a significant quantity of cast members). Perhaps we'll get a great product in the near future.
The big problem appears to be a combination of production and writing. While the talent is there, the ability to use it and perhaps even the script itself is not. A good script can make or break a production, and a great director can work an good cast with a weak script into something pretty decent. Inconsistent production quality the rest of the way around just serves to limit improvement that much more.
Music is another weak spot. Too many fan productions either cannot afford an independent score or simply do not bother. Stock music just doesn't work. Only rarely can it adequately convey the proper atmosphere.
At the very least, the time of the independent filmmaker has come. I hope we see more of this, even if most is crap. Wouldn't be worse than Nemesis.
Whats a director? An actor
Whats a crazy fuck like me doing on forum talking about acting i dont know
They are working under extreme limitations when it comes to time and money so the end result can't be compared with a studio undertaking. While you may not like the end result--you are entitled to your opinion, of course--I don't think it's unreasonable to give them at least a little slack.
While admirable, this trailer just looks like something thrown together over the space of a few weekends. At any point of the production of a movie you need many talented professionals working at it. Why do you think the end credits are usually so long?
Money is only secondary here because those involved do this because they can afford it, otherwise they wouldn't do it. It's just that simple.
Actors do need the input of a capable director because they don't always see the big picture. That's what a director does, just like a big orchestra. There's little of that visible in this trailer. No guiding thread.
Just like a painting is not a bunch of color thrown together, or a good wine is not just fermented grape juice. Anyone can make vinegar. :D
[B]Just like a painting is not a bunch of color thrown together, or a good wine is not just fermented grape juice. Anyone can make vinegar. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
But good vinegar is quite rare. :p
[B]As evidence that Tim Russ may actually be a good director, consider [url=http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Living_Witness]Living Witness[/url]. [/B][/QUOTE] absolutely that episode was epic and everyone whose watched Yoyager knows that episode by heart. The doc rox that episode.
[B]But good vinegar is quite rare. :p [/B][/QUOTE]
Someone stop him, he's drinking vinegar!! :D
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXsBWgWmj8Q[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6EPTEOExGE[/url]
:D